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Ruby Hope (trio Fire/Light/Aether) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20668.msg262495#msg262495
« on: February 02, 2011, 03:20:18 am »
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A variant of the popular RoL/Hope, I got the idea thinking "  :light dragons are 13 :light quanta for 12 damage, but for less than that, albeit in another element, are dragons that cost 12 quanta to play but hit way harder. And 14 of these dragons is all it takes to bring the FG's to their knees (if they even have knees)."

Well, this is the deck that resulted. A crude trio, but it works. However, not in the way I intended. If you fractal the RoLs first, then you have 1*however many spaces in your hand=damage. If you fractal the Ash Eaters and then use the Light nymphs, you get double that.

But there are three main problems, the first of which sticks out like a sore thumb:
Really.
Tight.
Quanta. (had to do it like that, sorry.)

2. Lack of balance. I'm not a great deckbuilder, and this is clearly shown here.

And the third one is not a problem with the deck, but with  :fire in general.
3. Lack of plain (no abilities) creatures.

Any comments on how to improve this idea are welcome, as RoL/Hope is my favorite FG grinder and I would like to be able to post this in the Trio section.
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Re: Ruby Hope (trio Fire/Light/Aether) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20668.msg262583#msg262583
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2011, 05:24:52 am »
This just won't work. Light Dragons take advantage of the huge  :light production from fractaled Rays. You don't have nearly as much  :fire production in your deck, so Ruby Dragons come out much slower.

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Re: Ruby Hope (trio Fire/Light/Aether) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20668.msg262588#msg262588
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2011, 05:31:31 am »
This just won't work. Light Dragons take advantage of the huge  :light production from fractaled Rays. You don't have nearly as much  :fire production in your deck, so Ruby Dragons come out much slower.
True. Also, you have less chances of drawing an early RoL, and even less of drawing a Hope... I think this idea can't come true, at least not like this. (I made some decks with 6 RoL's, light mark and hope and other light stuff, that splashed in other decks, using hope as a 6/7 defence shield)

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Re: Ruby Hope (trio Fire/Light/Aether) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20668.msg262612#msg262612
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2011, 06:15:44 am »
This just won't work. Light Dragons take advantage of the huge  :light production from fractaled Rays. You don't have nearly as much  :fire production in your deck, so Ruby Dragons come out much slower.
True. Also, you have less chances of drawing an early RoL, and even less of drawing a Hope... I think this idea can't come true, at least not like this. (I made some decks with 6 RoL's, light mark and hope and other light stuff, that splashed in other decks, using hope as a 6/7 defence shield)
I wish  :fire had a plain creature. Because then, I could up the ash eaters and use this deck fully. Oh well.
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Re: Ruby Hope (trio Fire/Light/Aether) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20668.msg262613#msg262613
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2011, 06:25:17 am »
TBH, if you want a good quanta efficiency with dragons, jades are best combined with leaf dragon.

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Re: Ruby Hope (trio Fire/Light/Aether) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20668.msg262733#msg262733
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2011, 02:27:57 pm »
TBH, if you want a good quanta efficiency with dragons, jades are best combined with leaf dragon.
^^This.

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Re: Ruby Hope (trio Fire/Light/Aether) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20668.msg263037#msg263037
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2011, 10:25:52 pm »
TBH, if you want a good quanta efficiency with dragons, jades are best combined with leaf dragon.
^^This.
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,4772

Here's a deck you can use if you wish to explore the idea further.

Re: Ruby Hope (trio Fire/Light/Aether) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20668.msg265248#msg265248
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2011, 03:14:13 am »
y dont u up the ash eaters because they create fire  :fire every turn

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Re: Ruby Hope (trio Fire/Light/Aether) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20668.msg265281#msg265281
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2011, 04:07:36 am »
y dont u up the ash eaters because they create fire  :fire every turn
Because I can't use Luci on them, since it will only affect them if they are unupped.

Upped, I might as well go with regular RoL/Hope.
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Re: Ruby Hope (trio Fire/Light/Aether) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20668.msg265395#msg265395
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2011, 09:36:36 am »
y dont u up the ash eaters because they create fire  :fire every turn
Because I can't use Luci on them, since it will only affect them if they are unupped.

Upped, I might as well go with regular RoL/Hope.
but thats y u have electucuter because u fractal the upped fire guys and then take away their abilities or up some and then fractal one of each so that you can use your white nymphs. i would use the nymphs as a healing source only cause u already have RoL's to fractal, and that way u can get ur fire things out way faster

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Re: Ruby Hope (trio Fire/Light/Aether) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20668.msg265908#msg265908
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2011, 09:45:19 pm »
y dont u up the ash eaters because they create fire  :fire every turn
Because I can't use Luci on them, since it will only affect them if they are unupped.

Upped, I might as well go with regular RoL/Hope.
but thats y u have electucuter because u fractal the upped fire guys and then take away their abilities or up some and then fractal one of each so that you can use your white nymphs. i would use the nymphs as a healing source only cause u already have RoL's to fractal, and that way u can get ur fire things out way faster
Using Electrocuter on your own creatures is a waste of  :aether, and doing so against the FG's can mean death. Against Osiris, lobo his pharaohs to stop the scarab spam, not on the Brimstone Eaters to Luci.
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Re: Ruby Hope (trio Fire/Light/Aether) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20668.msg265911#msg265911
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2011, 09:49:04 pm »
wait, you actually tried this against FG?
does it even work?
big chance you won't get fractal and hope for quite a while...

 

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