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The Invincible https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35187.msg443458#msg443458
« on: December 30, 2011, 03:54:35 am »
I know that's a little stupid to search day and night for an invincible deck which can not exists: any deck playing against itself, there will be a winner and a looser.
But I think at least a deck with 100% win against AI may be possible.

I first tried a deck based on Pulvy / Oty / Gravity shield and Gravity Mark, but it seems I have better results without Oty and changing mark to time.

Here is what I've actually done:

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The main strategy is to play LD + Momentum + Quint, Octopuss + Quint to neutralize creatures with momentum or too much attack power, the Spin Carapace destroying the others. Pulvy helps destroying any Healing capabilities of the opponent.

It's powerful but not "invincible", any idea what's wrong ?
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Re: The Invincible https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35187.msg443459#msg443459
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2011, 04:23:39 am »
im sorry to say this, but firestall will murder this deck in its sleep
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Re: The Invincible https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35187.msg443465#msg443465
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2011, 04:52:46 am »
Yes, against AI4 fire rushes, hard to stay alive :)

I'm trying a fatty version with more shields, healing and sundials / precogs. Maybe it can help.

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Re: The Invincible https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35187.msg443477#msg443477
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2011, 05:35:23 am »
Why SoGs? They're really not much use anymore unless you have a :life mark. Although I do suppose you probably will have an influx of  :rainbow
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Re: The Invincible https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35187.msg443486#msg443486
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2011, 05:56:22 am »
Better playing a SoG than discarding :)
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Re: The Invincible https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35187.msg443812#msg443812
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2011, 04:01:50 am »
Lobo/mind flayers.
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Re: The Invincible https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35187.msg443850#msg443850
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2011, 06:48:00 am »
Quote from: Havok13 on December 31, 2011, 04:01:50 am
Lobo/mind flayers.
Octopus does the job better I think, for several reasons:
    Low attack power makes it escape ice or upped spine shield (and this deck is using upped spine shield which could be stolen)You can freeze creatures after they have been poisonedIt also neutralize big creatures like dragons
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Re: The Invincible https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35187.msg443907#msg443907
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2011, 11:49:24 am »
Quote from: fbparis on December 30, 2011, 04:52:46 am
Yes, against AI4 fire rushes, hard to stay alive :)
Ai 4 fire rush?
Ai 4 are random cards for 2 elements (or 1 if 2 times the same element)

About the deck:
not sure or you'll need those Protect artifacts because ai will always target hourglass first

Maybe you can add 1 mirror shield to make stalls useless
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Re: The Invincible https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35187.msg443919#msg443919
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2011, 12:40:24 pm »
The fatty version is ok against fire rushes.. Anyway it's not fast at all and pretty repetitive so I'm trying other things now :) I'd like a good deck with Nymphs / SoR !
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Re: The Invincible https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35187.msg443931#msg443931
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2011, 02:18:13 pm »
Quote from: fbparis on December 31, 2011, 12:40:24 pm
The fatty version is ok against fire rushes.. Anyway it's not fast at all and pretty repetitive so I'm trying other things now :) I'd like a good deck with Nymphs / SoR !
:time nymph + SoR = triple drawing (which makes all decks fast) :P
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Re: The Invincible https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35187.msg443951#msg443951
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2011, 04:27:05 pm »
Quote from: rickerd on December 31, 2011, 02:18:13 pm
:time nymph + SoR = triple drawing (which makes all decks fast) :P
Sure but I reserve :time for Anubis (instant & double immortality)
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