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genraenera

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Improve my HB Rainbow! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6678.msg70891#msg70891
« on: May 19, 2010, 12:22:32 am »
Hey there, I made a rainbow for farming HBs and currently win 80%, every single win is an EM too, mark is time.

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I think the strategy is pretty self explanitory, just stall with sundials and shields until you have creatures + bonds out, then start spamming fireflies.  Mutate fireflies and problematic enemy creatures, rewind the mutants of the enemy.  The one original thing about this deck is the gravity nymph, which lets me use the black hole ability once per turn, draining the hell out of the enemy quanta while healing me a ton.  I find it very helpful, though it is by no means necessary for this deck.
The main problem with this deck is I'm always short on quanta for the first several turns.  I tried adding novas but that just left me with less actual cards, less shields, less dials, etc.  I guess I'll have to up the pillars but thats gonna be a ton of money....
Its nothing new and exciting, but it works great.  I'm thinking of adding a few defrags, maybe taking out a few sundials, any suggestions would be appreciated.  I have all the rare weapons (except light) and have 7 unupped SoGs also, though I have no other upped shards.  Also tell me your opinions on what order to keep upgrading stuff.  Thanks :)

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Re: Improve my HB Rainbow! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6678.msg70896#msg70896
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2010, 12:25:28 am »
How does this exactly fit into the fake god section?

Anyways, all further do aside, are you sure you need that many cards for your rainbow deck? The less the amount of cards, the more better luck with draws. Only throw in what you absolutely need. Take out some multiples. Do you really need 4 dimensional shields?

genraenera

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Re: Improve my HB Rainbow! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6678.msg70917#msg70917
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2010, 12:53:52 am »
Crap... i definitely clicked the wrong section....  ???

Someone move this please

Re: Improve my HB Rainbow! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6678.msg71049#msg71049
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2010, 07:35:58 am »
You have an amber nymph? Why dont you farm T50? At least 50% of them are rainbows. Should greatly help you.

You have no otys. Even unupgraded, they should be there. At least one.
And if you do put one, might as well have a boneyard.

1 lone time pillar? You are time heavy, but one pillar isnt going to help much/at all. And with that many cards you should be able to swap eternity for Pulveriser (you only have 1 steal for permanent control!)

4 Dim shields and 6 sundials is overkill. Drop some, (and some other cards) and you'll get them with higher frequency.

Shard of divinity isnt especially useful IMO, but thats mostly taste.


As for upgrades, with your current strategy Druids will help you infinetely. Less dead fireflies, superior mutations. Even one will help, even though it does cost one more quanta to play. An upgraded miracle will also help you bring back a few matches where you have 12-14 light quanta and are going to dies. Happens more than you'd think. If you add otys, upgrading them will increase their eating capabilities by lots.

Also, PA's are also a matter of taste, but only 4 out of 12  elements have permanent control (but one is a spell, and one is a weapon requiring another element). Generally they will be quite useless against HBs.


genraenera

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Re: Improve my HB Rainbow! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6678.msg71134#msg71134
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2010, 11:34:52 am »
Well as long as this thread is in the wrong section, I may as well discuss it.

I have been doing a few FGs with this deck, I've won like 3/6 attempts, though I got lucky enough to get both miracle and neptune to slaughter.  The other win was dream catcher, who I simply out-healed and got my mutants powerful enough to kill his dissipation shield. 

@drunk:  I farmed T50 for like a week, I've already got plenty of weapons and such, now I want money for upgrades.  I had that one time pillar in because it helped in a ton of games to get my hourglasses out early, and start using them asap, though I did take it out last night.  I might dump a few shields and dials, but I never have enough quanta to get started fast, I need the stalling they provide for me.  Miracle had been what I had been planning on upgrading next, though now I might want to do another SoG.

The new deck as I have it is:
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Wynden

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Re: Improve my HB Rainbow! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6678.msg73376#msg73376
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2010, 10:13:30 am »
First of all:
Take out some pillars and hourglasses.
3-4 pillars, 1-2 hourglasses.
IMO, 4 hourglasses is overkill. You do NOT need to draw 5 cards per turn (not including sundials), nor do you have that much time quanta to spare (together, that's approx 8/ turn)
Shard of Divinity isn't a great card, and I would suggest it's taken out.
Toning down on Dim. Shields so you have access to aether quanta for other things might help as well, because you might be a bit hasty, and not have enough for the Quints.

This deck has next to no Creature control. The only thing you can hope for are the elves & the RoF, which might help your opponent just as much as it can cripple them. The RoF, however powerful, isn't very stable. It's used once, and then they can rebuild all over again. I highly recommend you place some Otys in this deck.

With the water, death, and dark quantum not being used at all, you should change your deck to allow for it. Above all, it's a RAINBOW deck, which uses all elements. Add steals! Your opponent can have some really nice cards.  ;) Personally, I've taken bonds with no creature slots left, giving me an extra 24 HP/ turn. Also, because it's a rainbow deck, it can use all of those spells and weapons efficiently. Boneyards and Bone walls are the way to go. Bone wall is the most powerful shield available. If you have RoF, elves to possibly kill, and possibly a future Oty or 2 to kill creatures which will power your bone wall.

That's all I got.

Lluis83

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Re: Improve my HB Rainbow! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6678.msg73651#msg73651
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2010, 11:56:30 pm »


In a big rainbow deck, hourglasses are very important, keep them in the deck. You don't want to use them all, but you want to draw one hourglass early.


I will take out:

-1 Amber Nimph and add  1-3 Oty

-1 Shard of Divinity.



I like the idea of the time pillar. When I had my deck unupgraded, I putted  2 or 3 time pillars and it worked very well.When you have all the quantum pillars upgraded it is no necessary.

In a large rainbow, you can have 4 phase shields and 2 quintessences without problem. The phase shields are only used after playing sundials, and from one to other, past several turns, and you can generate enought quanta aether quanta.

If you are going to face FG, I suggest 6 sundials and 3-4 phase shields.

When you have one pulvy, put it and quit both deflagrations.


I hope it will help you.


 

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