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Rainbow vs FG https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19178.msg244000#msg244000
« on: January 09, 2011, 05:54:13 pm »
Im looking for some advise how i can get more win % with this deck
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What cards should i change/add?

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Re: Rainbow vs FG https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19178.msg244033#msg244033
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2011, 06:45:18 pm »
first off, it would likely help if you gave a current win percentage. really not sure what to help with as of now.
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Re: Rainbow vs FG https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19178.msg244511#msg244511
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2011, 01:16:11 pm »
My Win Percantage is about 30% .. many lose vs gods with earthquake and/ore explosion/steal

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Re: Rainbow vs FG https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19178.msg244568#msg244568
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2011, 04:28:54 pm »
hi :)

30% with this deck i a bit low, imho...so there is defintely some space for improvement...

loosing a lot/most of the time against gods with Permanent Control is quite normal with a deck like this...not really sth. you can about that...therefore you have to make the most of out of encounters you actually have a chance :)

I played a similar setup for quite some time...so here are my comments:

Enchant artifact: I know protecting your eternity is important...BUT: as i already mentioned, gods with a LOT of explosions are losses most of the time anyway, you might think about simply REMOVING it...you always can use hourglasses as bait. But i have to admit that I not absolutely sure about this, as i switched to CCYB?...
 
Size and Hourglasses: I think with this size you could need a 4th eternity...or you reduce the size of your deck by some cards. You simply need to have one hourglass at the beginning of the game, to setup your defenses. 3 in almost 40 cards might be too few...

Rain of Fire: I know its a staple for quite a few FG Rainbow decks...but for me it was more times a useless card, than actually a life saver...i removed it from my deck...

Shields: Going only with one shield is a bit low...i always need one shield in the game ASAP. So i would recommend adding another shield of your choice...probably either permafrost or bone wall...maybe jade shield...

Mindgate: Again, I know Mindgate is popular...for me i found that it was not essential for winning. A nice addition to speed up some games, but never saved my life or made the deck significantly faster...but there were some games, when i urgently needed a card to survive/win, but drew mindgate and lost...it could be removed

Miracle: I know refreshing your HP is nice...but i found myself often enough in the situation, that either i had defenses set up and miracle was not needed...or i took TOO much damage and miracle did only buy me 1- max.2 turns...which didnt help very often...another candidate for removal or replacement by another SoG...

Explosion/Steal: your only two cards for PC...you might want to think about replacing them with a Pulverizer (but you would have to be more careful with your eternity then) or maybe only steals...most of the time stealing is better then destroying?

For all of the suggested changes, i recommend that you simply try watching your games a bit closer. Everytime you draw Enchant artifact, Rain of Fire, Miracle or Mindgate ask yourself:
A) Is this card really helpful/needed in this situation?
B) Is there a card that could have been better in this situation?

If you come up with low A and much higher B -> remove them and do further testing.

Though its not a card of my personal choice, i want to mention at last that Aflatoxin is another poupular card that is added to decks like this...

Hope this helps. Good luck.

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Re: Rainbow vs FG https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19178.msg244619#msg244619
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2011, 06:23:26 pm »
ok thanks ill try it.. i hope it gets more powerfull ;P

mb some other tips too xD?

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Re: Rainbow vs FG https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19178.msg244628#msg244628
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2011, 06:39:26 pm »
lets cover the FGs, see what ones you have a likely good/bad matchup against, what cards crush them most

    * Chaos Lord   1 antimatter
    * Dark Matter  2 shard of gratitude
    * Decay  1 aflatoxin or 1 jade shield
    * Destiny 
    * Divine Glory  lolololololololol
    * Dream Catcher

    * Elidnis  1 bone shield
    * Eternal Phoenix  good luck / 1 rain of fire
    * Ferox  1 rain of fire
    * Fire Queen  1 lobo / ulth
    * Gemini  1 aflatoxin
    * Graviton   depends on situation and momentums he draws

    * Hermes   tough FG.  all fire mark FGs are tough
    * Incarnate  ? sundials
    * Miracle  ? sundials
    * Morte  1 antimatter
    * Neptune  1 pulverizer
    * Obliterator  1 pulverizer or protect artifact

    * Octane  1 pulverizer
    * Osiris  1 pulverizer
    * Paradox  1 pulverizer
    * Rainbow 1 pulverizer
    * Scorpio difficult FG for everyone
    * Seism  1 protect artifact

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Re: Rainbow vs FG https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19178.msg245849#msg245849
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2011, 10:50:35 am »
to be honest, I don't think the low win rate is because of the deck, it looks just fine against FGs...
I think you should tell us about how you use it more

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Re: Rainbow vs FG https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19178.msg246675#msg246675
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2011, 04:22:15 pm »
Seeing as you have 1 RoF and 2 Otys, i would probably go +1 Bonewall since you have only 1 shield.

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Re: Rainbow vs FG https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19178.msg246700#msg246700
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2011, 05:08:31 pm »
Tanks for your tipps my new deck is:
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it works much better than before=)

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Re: Rainbow vs FG https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19178.msg251131#msg251131
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2011, 04:06:51 pm »
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I think its my final version it works pretty good.
Only hard against mass pilar destroy or perma destroy(cards out)

Re: Rainbow vs FG https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19178.msg251755#msg251755
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2011, 07:03:03 am »
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I think its my final version it works pretty good.
Only hard against mass pilar destroy or perma destroy(cards out)
no bone walls or bone yard?

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Re: Rainbow vs FG https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19178.msg252028#msg252028
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2011, 07:12:07 pm »
hmm without it works a bit better now .. idk exectly why but in most situations i traw bone wall/gravejard to late or my oponents got +7 creatures on the fild against my bonewall

 

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