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rainbow mutation deck for godslaying https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54972.msg1145303#msg1145303
« on: July 13, 2014, 04:48:16 pm »
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I am trying to create a more modernized rainbow mutation deck. 1. mutation is fun 2. the only rainbow mutations i have found on the forums are like scaredgirls from 5 years ago. this deck is also basically a mini version of her deck. idk what can i add/remove? any nymphs or shards that would work great i mutation decks? i do plan on upgrading everything when i get enough electrum

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Re: rainbow mutation deck for godslaying https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54972.msg1145320#msg1145320
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2014, 06:02:59 pm »
First of all, drop the idea this is going to work against FGs.
Nope, never going to happen.
The deck is just over the place, though...
It's going to take a lot of suggestions to get that in running shape.
Try simplifying the deck.

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Re: rainbow mutation deck for godslaying https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54972.msg1145326#msg1145326
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2014, 06:46:51 pm »
well it kinda is supposed to be all over the place its RAINBOW. basically otyugh=cc boneyard+fg gives two types of creature production incase of cc or pc. then elf improve mutates the ff or skeles. how would i simplify this without ruining the entire point?

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Re: rainbow mutation deck for godslaying https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54972.msg1145346#msg1145346
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2014, 09:03:25 pm »
Rainbow decks aren't all over the place. They have structure. Generally, they devote all thier elements towards one goal. When they diverge, they devote entire blocks of elements towards goals.
This... :/ It can be made more efficient. I admit I'm not the one to ask. Maybe me having a conversation about it'll attract they who should be. I've also heard that Scaredgirl's rainbow decks will never really be functional again.

Okay, card by card analysis:

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Summons Ursarings. Harvest Ursaring souls to cast stuff. You know what this stuff does.
Okay. I'm assuming that you want both of these upgraded. 2'll... It should do.
Uhm... These things tend to be bad. They work in those mutation decks, I hear, but... :/
Bone wall makes sense. Why Emerald instead of MIrror or even just the common shield, though?
Yes? This protects the eternity. Makes sense.
You have a very specific useage for the weapon and shield slot. I would recommend another deflag over steal.
Yep. This makes sense. I might recommend thunderstorm given its cost, though. Not sure.
Only five? I would recommend six.
I... Only one? I guess you have enough coverage from the bonds and dials, so it's not too bad.
These are to keep your druids/queen alive... Yep, that's fine.
These are important. I might consider putting a third in.
This works too.
Well, can't have an FG grinder without these, can you?
Drawlocks aren't very good against FGs. I question what this does.

Well, next step would be to ask what you want to do with the deck.
It's not going to work as an FG grinder, I don't think.

See also, something I found after some digging:
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Re: rainbow mutation deck for godslaying https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54972.msg1145377#msg1145377
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2014, 01:12:54 am »
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I'm assuming this is to kill stuff? Does its job.
These are important. I might consider putting a third in.
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Re: rainbow mutation deck for godslaying https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54972.msg1145378#msg1145378
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2014, 01:24:02 am »
Well actually Scaredgirl's Rainbow was one of the very first false god grinders before many new False Gods were introduced (Serket, Osiris, Akebono, Hecate and many others didn't even exist). But after the gods became stronger, people started using RoLhope.
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Re: rainbow mutation deck for godslaying https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54972.msg1145385#msg1145385
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2014, 02:28:39 am »
If you have 1 copy of your key cards (Firefly Queen, Boneyard), you want at least 6 Hourglasses so you can draw through your deck quickly, even if you have less than 60 cards.

If you're trying to minimize the deck, then Sundials can be replaced with Dimensional Shields. They really don't last long enough anymore to be your only source protection (disregarding your Bonewalls and CC, as they're slow), even if they're a +0.

Cut the excess. That's Emerald Shield, the extra Feral Bond (why do you not have Sanctuaries or Miracle?), and other cards that require an improbable chain of events to be useful or strain quanta too much.

You should drop the 3rd Quintessence for another Elite Queen. They're pretty sturdy, so you can usually drop one against an FG that doesn't have soft CC. Plus, with earlier FFQs, you have more consistent fire quanta generation, and can invest in 1-2 more Rain of Fires.

The best shards to splash are the standard ones. 1 SoFo is much more useful than 1 Deflag, though if you're straining your quanta too much I'd invest in 1-2 Gravity Towers. Obviously, SoSac is a risky move, as this deck needs quanta fast, so no one would suggest it over other forms of early game protection. SoP is pretty good, as it boosts your Otyughs and against some FGs allows you to play creatures before you get your Quints.

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But yeah, permanent-reliant decks don't really work as well as RoL/Hope anymore, especially slow set-up decks that aren't OTKs.

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Re: rainbow mutation deck for godslaying https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54972.msg1145392#msg1145392
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2014, 04:21:09 am »
ok so ill prob switch emerald for mirror shield mostly cuz i hate the mono-aether SoW'd dragons also in case i lose my bone shield i have a shield thats not stolen or defraged.  i chose sundials over dim shlds for the added draw. i will prob switch steal for another defrag. dont have miracle so ill keep feral bond til then. will add two sanctuaries against pestals and discord. i was still trying to stay around 40 cards instead of massive 50 or 60 since i hate when i dont draw an elf til the very end. thanks for the feedback. if you guys can think of more keep posting

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Re: rainbow mutation deck for godslaying https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54972.msg1145393#msg1145393
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2014, 05:54:20 am »
ok so ill prob switch emerald for mirror shield mostly cuz i hate the mono-aether SoW'd dragons
So is this deck for FG slaying or not?

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Re: rainbow mutation deck for godslaying https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54972.msg1146149#msg1146149
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2014, 12:43:42 am »
it is for false god killing but id like to use it for arena and pvp2 occasionally. one unstealable undefragable shield wont destroy my deck when i got electrum hourglasses and eternity

 

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