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Rainbow Deck, help please :X https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29863.msg380090#msg380090
« on: August 14, 2011, 03:07:57 am »
So I almost surely won't do many of the changes you suggest. For example, I will not take it down to 30 cards. I enjoy this deck and its win rate isn't terrible.

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However, I would like to know how many pillars I should have. Also, I am thinking of getting rid of the micro-abomination. Any thoughts?

Any other improvements would be appreciated. Also, what should I focus on upgrading?



EDIT: Updated my deck to this.

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Re: Rainbow Deck, help please :X https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29863.msg380117#msg380117
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2011, 04:23:09 am »
Either less cards or more hourglasses. Also, supernovas don't help much when the deck is that big and you have so many pillars.
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Re: Rainbow Deck, help please :X https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29863.msg380131#msg380131
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2011, 05:19:46 am »
Thanks for the reply. I was thinking +2 hourglasses, -1 GoTP, -1 Micro Abomination. The MB was not very helpful except when FD was out.

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Re: Rainbow Deck, help please :X https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29863.msg380510#msg380510
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Re: Rainbow Deck, help please :X https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29863.msg380692#msg380692
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2011, 01:19:33 am »
Yeah I figured that out a bit too late XD


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Re: Rainbow Deck, help please :X https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29863.msg380698#msg380698
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2011, 01:26:14 am »
Thanks for the reply. I was thinking +2 hourglasses, -1 GoTP, -1 Micro Abomination. The MB was not very helpful except when FD was out.
A good start. However, it wouldn't be bad if you cut it a bit more. The Nymph's tears and Dim shield can be cut- Try replacing with bone walls/wings. Also, what's your druid doing there? The Druid-FFQ combo is good, but kind of slow.

You have a lot of good things going on, but they're all interfering with each other. Keep a few core elements- do you want growth creatures, or do you want to mutate? Heal to stall, or control the field?
You don't necessarily have to pick only a few strategies, but it'd be a good idea to emphasize a few card combos or to centralize your deck's theme.
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Re: Rainbow Deck, help please :X https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29863.msg380756#msg380756
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2011, 03:54:05 am »
Yeah I know what you mean. It's so hard to take out my druid but I probably should, that card is a ton of fun when it gets going but it just doesn't happen often. As for nymph's tears, it's another really fun one that I guess I'll take out lol.

Dimensional Shield I like though. It has saved me where wings hasn't several times. The only problem is that its cost interferes with mindgate early on if I have them both and vice versa.

I just tested 20 games against HB and got 75% wins with 25% EM. However against FGs I only got a 35% win rate and only one EM. Any way to optimize this deck for FGs  besides what you mentioned? (I'll do what you mentioned though) I know there are better templates for FGs but I prefer to use one that is at least partially my own.

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Re: Rainbow Deck, help please :X https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29863.msg380767#msg380767
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2011, 04:35:51 am »
Control is control. You should probably keep stuff like pandemonium, steal, and Elite Otyugh. Why not create variations?
A base would probably be, aside from QT, hourglasses, and SN, something like this-
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1 variation for growth- forest spirit, steam machine, lava golem, etc-
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And so on, mixing and matching as you add new cards to explore.
Don't take my suggestions too seriously, though. I'm not a master deck-builder or anything, and I'm not the one testing this.

Edit:Oh, and for FGs- try adding quints/defensive stuff like silence or cloak. You'll have to play around with the balance, but I've just noticed that this deck is very vulnerable to control.
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Re: Rainbow Deck, help please :X https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29863.msg380843#msg380843
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2011, 10:50:16 am »
Ok, what do you want to play against? Level 3, arena, false god?

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Re: Rainbow Deck, help please :X https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29863.msg380848#msg380848
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2011, 11:17:51 am »
I think you should try permafrost over dimensional. I always found permafrost a ton more helpful.
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Re: Rainbow Deck, help please :X https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29863.msg380859#msg380859
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2011, 12:26:07 pm »
I think you should try permafrost over dimensional. I always found permafrost a ton more helpful.
Ehem, what about his diamond shield? Permafrost would be better suited switching with that.
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Re: Rainbow Deck, help please :X https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29863.msg380872#msg380872
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2011, 01:40:05 pm »
Could try switching both out for two of them. But that might interfere with steamy.
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