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Tourney Quartet Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15678.msg200655#msg200655
« on: November 13, 2010, 11:20:22 pm »
I don't usually post here, but I felt like I needed some more deckbuilding experience after my failiure in my second tourney.

I was attracted by the deckbuilding limitations, and made two pre made decks, editing them slightly but mostly just going with them and hoping.

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For those not aware of the rules, you had to use decks made up of 4 elements exactly, and not use the same cards (pillars and pendulums excluded) in any of the decks.
In hindsight I should have made three decks, and expanded the first one In case of other stalls (regrettably I ran out of electrum, and I refused to sell any of my upgraded cards ::) )

Any comments to show me how I could have done better are appreciated, I am only doing this so I can improve my restrictive deckbuilding.

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Re: Tourney Quartet Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15678.msg200661#msg200661
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2010, 11:25:53 pm »
i just went with some trios and added sparks. i also used a golem rush and added creatures that have synergies with fire.
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Re: Tourney Quartet Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15678.msg200666#msg200666
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2010, 11:28:47 pm »
i just went with some trios and added sparks. i also used a golem rush and added creatures that have synergies with fire.
The golem rushes I saw all seemed a bit forced.
Mind posting yours as well?

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Re: Tourney Quartet Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15678.msg200694#msg200694
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2010, 11:58:30 pm »
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,15623.0.html
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,15622.0.html
and i didnt post or use this one but
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Re: Tourney Quartet Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15678.msg200705#msg200705
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2010, 12:13:41 am »
The general problem with quartet decks is: the cards often don´t support each other, don´t have a consistant strategy and drawing cards in the right order is a problem.

Decks often look as if only "the best cards of every element" are thrown together.

A four elements deck with many synergies could be:

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Synergies:

Quintessence <-> FFQ, Firefly (safe light income)
Fractal <-> Firefly <-> Hope, Light cards

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Re: Tourney Quartet Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15678.msg200709#msg200709
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2010, 12:16:03 am »
yea. for my immo deck, i chose element a. i chose element b that had a synergy with a, element c that was fodder, and element d that had a synergy to a.
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Re: Tourney Quartet Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15678.msg202135#msg202135
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2010, 05:15:01 am »
My favorite deck that I made for this tournament was definitely my immortal hyper flying weapons deck:
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It's pretty basic in that it almost plays itself.  The rustlers and light cards obviously tie together, and then the Quints help to make what Druidic Staves you have flying about immortal.  This actually can be an effective PvP deck in this format due to the Adrenalines.  If you can adrenaline a flying staff you become much harder to kill. 

At any rate, I tried to build several decks for this tournament, and I found that my decks that seemed to work best were the ones where 3 of the elements were synergistic and the 4th was splashed for a "nice" effect, but not one that was necessary for the deck to be functional.  This is, of course, discounting Immos/Novas, which obviously can count as an element in and of themselves, but I was leaving out for the purposes of this thread.

One of the difficulties in a tournament like this is to get off of what preconceptions you may have going in.  When I first saw the limitations my mind immediately went to Black Hole, as I'm sure it did with many people.  The problem I ran into came with the quad element requirement.  Whenever I tried to work Black Hole into a deck I found myself overloading on Gravity quanta to make sure I could play them, which made the rest of the deck suffer because it immediately became too large.  When I tried to counter this by bringing in Time for Precogs, Hourglasses, and Sundials, and now it suddenly became Time heavy as well.  So now I had two elements and still haven't done any damage to my opponent, not a good start, so I scrapped the Black Hole idea.  This is not to say that others out there couldn't do it (I'm sure many did and that at least one of them will educate me, I'm greatly looking forward to it  :) ), only that I was unable to.

Basically, I found I was able to run one element with expensive cards, my secondary and tertiary elements with relatively cheaper cards, and the quaternary (yes, I had to look it up) being quantum support (eg. Nova/Immo) or a "nice" bonus, but not essential to deck success.  Like I said, I'm sure others found ways around some of my problems, this was just the process that I wound up using.
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Re: Tourney Quartet Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15678.msg202139#msg202139
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2010, 05:23:03 am »
I used a rip off of this deck:
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Won most of my matches with that deck :P
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Re: Tourney Quartet Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15678.msg202141#msg202141
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2010, 05:25:49 am »
I used a rip off of this deck:
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Won most of my matches with that deck :P
and apparently my poison deck seems to desync when it gets the perfect hand, only then, do i lose ;P
also did u use that exact deck?


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and my rushbow
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