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Powerful Poison Deck? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3262.msg28234#msg28234
« on: February 22, 2010, 01:27:49 am »
OK, I am currently using a very succesful poison deck, consisting of 6 chrysaoras, 6 poisons, 11 bone pillars, 6 freezes, and 1 dagger and a water mark, which is a starter deck the deckbuilding newbie guide recommended. Against level 3's I can win 9 out of 10 battles, right around that. It has a few weaknesses to several cards, but they can be ignored if I'm lucky enough. Against other players this works well as well. However, I want to move forward once I get out of grinding level 3's and past score 500.

One thing I wanted to build was a rainbow deck with emphasis on poison and time. However, that doesn't seem to work too well. Then I considered using what I'm using (with a few upgrades and rare cards, such as Arsenic) and see how that goes.

So, will either of these two decks work well enough to beat False Gods with a good chance of winniing as well as hold its own against other players? If so, which one, and how can I upgrade it for it to work?

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Re: Powerful Poison Deck? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3262.msg28235#msg28235
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2010, 01:30:46 am »
FG's....no. In PvP and top50 it will work. If you don't have a rainbow FG killer yet, you should get one before you up your other decks.

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Re: Powerful Poison Deck? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3262.msg28237#msg28237
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2010, 01:33:11 am »
Yeah, I kinda figured I needed something different for FG's. However, some of the rainbow decks I've seen don't include any poison or freezing, and that's my specialty.

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Re: Powerful Poison Deck? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3262.msg28258#msg28258
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2010, 03:15:10 am »
If you like poison, look into parasites in the trainer.  Once you find good combos with the poison (Otyughs eat, boneyards, fire walls speed the whole process up) you'll be able to incorporate even more elements (Emphatic bonds to go with your skeletons, Maxwells demons to go with your poisons, turtle shield to go with your freezes) until you form a nice rainbow.  Don't go running to pre-made rainbows until you make your own.

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Re: Powerful Poison Deck? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3262.msg28264#msg28264
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2010, 03:43:16 am »
Yes, I was looking for that type of rainbow synergy to complement my poison synergy. I needed help and advice before I wasted 1500 Electrums on an upgraded card before I tested it and saw that it didn't help me at all.

Although, the poison I favor is the one I explained in my OP, the chrys and poison spells. I've found this to be a great synergy, but I'm not sure how this will complement in a rainbow deck. A friend of mine advised the Dark weapon. (which would replace those parasites)

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Re: Powerful Poison Deck? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3262.msg28384#msg28384
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2010, 02:37:38 pm »
NO! Never ever ever EVER use the vampire stilleto(unless you're mono dark). And you should definitely not pick it as your 500 score weapon(if you didn't pick one already)
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Re: Powerful Poison Deck? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3262.msg28581#msg28581
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2010, 04:20:49 am »
Although, the poison I favor is the one I explained in my OP, the chrys and poison spells. I've found this to be a great synergy, but I'm not sure how this will complement in a rainbow deck. A friend of mine advised the Dark weapon. (which would replace those parasites)
I started with a very similar deck and mindset.  I don't mean to say it won't work, but I found it very ineffective against anything higher than AI3.  I ultimately decided to cut my losses and reset my account.

For starters, your Chrysaoras will not survive long against better decks.  They will be quickly targeted, and one firestorm or two thunderstorms will wipe them all out. 

Second, the poisoning process is pretty slow.  You'll probably be dead before you can build up a significant amount.  It can take up to 10+ turns to reach 20-25 poison damage.  You could have played a single dragon and done that damage in two turns.

Third, poison is just less effective against AI5 and FGs.  They have 200 HP, draw 2 cards a turn, and their Marks produce 3 quanta a turn.  They move fast and hitting them for 25 isn't going to hurt them too badly, and a lot of them have some sort of healing.

Fourth, all your poison work can be undone with a single purify.  It's never good when nearly half your deck and your whole strategy can be negated with one card.

As someone who is grinding AI5 and an occasional FG to build up my deck, I've found direct damage is the way to go.  Once you get a lot of upgraded cards, maybe you could look into poison again.  A popular alternative deck for AI3 is a speed earth deck (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1188.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1188.0.html)).  After AI3 most people (myself included) move into rainbow decks until you have more upgraded cards to use to level the playing field a bit.

As for weapons, most rainbow decks use Eternity (to keep from running out of cards).  I personally think the Pulverizer, Trident, or Owl's Eye are also good choices.  Just take which one suits you best.

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Re: Powerful Poison Deck? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3262.msg28585#msg28585
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2010, 04:42:04 am »
Also, I'd like to mention that (this came up in a previous thread) the idea of a "poison rainbow" is self-contradictory, as the power of a rainbow is to maximze spread-out quanta usage by having the best of all elements -- but ALL of the poison is concentrated in 2 elements, meaning that rainbow philosophy and the poison philosophy are virtually impossible to balance into a single deck.
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Re: Powerful Poison Deck? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3262.msg28586#msg28586
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2010, 04:42:35 am »
I would suggest you use SG's Almost unupped FG farming deck to get started. Then you may want to move on to my build or Ivalimian's build. Or your own rainbow build.

However, a rainbow deck based on poison has a very low probability of being able to beat FG's well.

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Re: Powerful Poison Deck? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3262.msg29471#msg29471
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2010, 09:01:56 pm »
Well, true, I kinda got the idea. I still need a good way to switch from poison to rainbow. Would starting with a few hourglasses help me at all?

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Re: Powerful Poison Deck? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3262.msg30435#msg30435
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2010, 04:40:18 pm »
The switch will have to be all in one go instead of a gradual deck change. Mixing two decks together will rarely, if ever, be a good way to go.

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Re: Powerful Poison Deck? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3262.msg34640#msg34640
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2010, 02:35:53 pm »
ya if u do use rainbow hourglass is very important and when ur satidfied with ur rainbow deck the first thing u should always upgrade is the hourglasses

 

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