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Pillarless "Ray of Regen" idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19856.msg251562#msg251562
« on: January 19, 2011, 02:05:34 am »
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I had this idea when checking out a few different FFQ decks (which I have personally used/tweaked) But they get started off incredibly slowly... You have to wait to build up the towers to play a Queen. Without a good starting hand and a few good draws, this can easily take around 3-4 turns if you don't get too many pillars. A rush desk can easily pulverize an FFQ deck. However, Rays, though they have less attack, also have no quanta cost and generate their own :light. So, using the same concept as in FFQ decks, I combined Rays and Rustlers/Leaf Dragons along with a few extra cards in order to create something new. I call it Ray of Regen because using the SoG's and the Rustler/Leaf Dragon ability to convert :light to :life :life, alongside :life's wealth of healing cards, you can effectively heal yourself while saving up points for weapons, shields, better creatures, etc. I have, however experienced how quickly this deck can fall vulnerable to something as simple as a shield or Rain of Fire/Firestorm. I've been playing Elements for a few days (used the trainer to make this, I don't have time to grind/farm right now, lol) so I figured those who were more veteran to me would be able to help with this and estimate it idea's full potential. I've had no problem defeating Elders, however I've only beaten one of the 3-4 Top 50 I've attempted.

So, questions? Comments? Suggestions? Constructive criticism, please.

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Re: Pillarless "Ray of Regen" idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19856.msg252384#msg252384
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2011, 05:19:50 am »
Thanks. I tried putting up some statistics, though Crusader isn't on that site yet as it's a newer card.

I'd agree to leaving maybe one or two RoL's and Leaf Dragons out, though not too many because in order for tem to draw quickly and stay somewhat prominent in the face of brief CC, they have to be in slightly larger numbers.

Improved heal is either A. In case of emergency or B. In case of need for further ownage, IE Masters.

The aiding creatures (if I'm understanding your correctly) are the Crusaders. Eventually you'll have a Crusader and a Jade Staff summoned, simply endow the Crusader with the Jade Staff's ability/attack for both higher attack and 5 HP/turn.

That's pretty much the strategy I use. I wait till I have a couple RoL's, lay them out, and only bput 1 or 2 Leaf Dragons out at a time, because they're the main target for CC, as if they're shut down, the deck shuts down. I wait until I have at least two leaf dragons in my hand until playing, so I can easily have backup if needed.

Again, thanks. Lol.

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Re: Pillarless "Ray of Regen" idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19856.msg253818#msg253818
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2011, 02:21:12 am »
Looks quite nice; if anything, I'd suggest an Epipherine which you can use on your RoLs to get them to give you double the :light. Take out 2 Leaf Dragons, and replace them with 2 Epis. Something you might wanna look into is taking unupped shields, so that the poison affects creatures with 1 attack as well.

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Re: Pillarless "Ray of Regen" idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19856.msg253975#msg253975
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2011, 06:11:38 am »
Looks quite nice; if anything, I'd suggest an Epipherine which you can use on your RoLs to get them to give you double the :light. Take out 2 Leaf Dragons, and replace them with 2 Epis. Something you might wanna look into is taking unupped shields, so that the poison affects creatures with 1 attack as well.
He's got two Life Nymphs, which have Adrenaline as their skill. I figure that is sufficient. :)

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Re: Pillarless "Ray of Regen" idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19856.msg257208#msg257208
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2011, 09:30:27 pm »
I'll check out the unupped shield. But yeah, the nymphs do the job, lol. And once the deck gets going, you don't really need any more :light quanta. The main element is :life anyway. The crusaders are there for the extra heal, if you happen to draw them.

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Re: Pillarless "Ray of Regen" idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19856.msg257475#msg257475
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2011, 02:21:17 am »
yes nice deck but is to short and heal too much, a big healing deck is for deck for more cards...

keep it only on lvl 3, if u upped all and u will get 2  :life nimph ( :P) use this deck on T50 and keep it away from pvp because a deck whit 31 or more cards deck out u deck easly.

Re: Pillarless "Ray of Regen" idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19856.msg258194#msg258194
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2011, 04:57:35 am »
    How useful is Crusader in this setup? Yes, a 7/7 with 5 health regen for 7 light quanta is solid, but it requires that a Jade Staff be out. If the life quanta are converted to life quanta, that's a Jade Dragon plus two extra quanta right there. Would trading the Crusaders for Jade Dragons improve the power of the deck?


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Re: Pillarless "Ray of Regen" idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19856.msg258219#msg258219
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2011, 06:28:59 am »
very nice deck, you might wanna add a solar buckler (just wait a turn and it'll give you a lot of light back :))
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Re: Pillarless "Ray of Regen" idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19856.msg258635#msg258635
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2011, 10:08:45 pm »
Y wuld u add miracle? It wuld just take a lot of this decks light quanta which decreases your chance to convert  :light to  :life :life. Just saying

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Re: Pillarless "Ray of Regen" idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19856.msg258831#msg258831
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2011, 03:05:49 am »
yes nice deck but is to short and heal too much, a big healing deck is for deck for more cards...

keep it only on lvl 3, if u upped all and u will get 2  :life nimph ( :P ) use this deck on T50 and keep it away from pvp because a deck whit 31 or more cards deck out u deck easly.
The purpose of this deck is to keep your health high, not to prevent deck-outs. It's currently only useful as an AI3 grinder anyway.

    How useful is Crusader in this setup? Yes, a 7/7 with 5 health regen for 7 light quanta is solid, but it requires that a Jade Staff be out. If the life quanta are converted to life quanta, that's a Jade Dragon plus two extra quanta right there. Would trading the Crusaders for Jade Dragons improve the power of the deck?
That could be a variation of this deck. However, the name is "Regen", and 10 extra life regenerated per turn as well as 14 attack (if both happen to be out) would be more useful than pure attack, unless you want to balance it a bit more, that's fine.

very nice deck, you might wanna add a solar buckler (just wait a turn and it'll give you a lot of light back :))
That's a pretty good idea, actually. Though Spine/Thorn Carapace creates better creature control, if you wanted to generate more :light to convert to :life :life , then that's perfect. Either way.

Y wuld u add miracle? It wuld just take a lot of this decks light quanta which decreases your chance to convert  :light to  :life :life . Just saying
Not quite sure who this was directed toward, though I left Miracle out for a reason. You're geting plenty of HP from all the regen abilities that you don't need it.

EDIT: Working on some stats for this deck. I can't promise much, maybe stats for 50 games by tomorrow.

 

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