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Phat Thread for Fat Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21984.msg281931#msg281931
« on: March 02, 2011, 09:23:26 pm »
So after a request, I decded to start a thread devoted to fat decks.  Here you can post fat decks and discuss them without anyone complain that "it needs to be 30 cards".

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Re: Phat Thread for Fat Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21984.msg281941#msg281941
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2011, 09:37:39 pm »
Here is what I have been using in the trainer.
(http://helltgivre.free.fr/elements/?mark=4ss&deck=z96qqz96qqz26qqz36u0z46uaz4712z3715z4717z37amz37apz47q7z37q8z480hz580j)
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Re: Phat Thread for Fat Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21984.msg281945#msg281945
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2011, 09:46:37 pm »
Here is what I have been using in the trainer.
(http://helltgivre.free.fr/elements/?mark=4ss&deck=z96qqz96qqz26qqz36u0z46uaz4712z3715z4717z37amz37apz47q7z37q8z480hz580j)
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slim it down... to something like 30 cards, or 40 with multiple hourglasses...

jk :P, looks good, but I feel hourglasses and crusaders are needed (crusader to endow eternity, so u can rewind to prevent deckout AND rewind your skeletons, at the same time)

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Re: Phat Thread for Fat Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21984.msg281965#msg281965
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2011, 10:12:38 pm »
The image is broken for me, can you see it?

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Re: Phat Thread for Fat Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21984.msg281977#msg281977
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2011, 10:34:36 pm »
try right clicking then choose, open image in new tab.
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Re: Phat Thread for Fat Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21984.msg282433#msg282433
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2011, 03:08:27 pm »
Many people have already seen this but anyway, just to add a deck to the collection, here it is, a FG deck:

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There is no auto-quits with this one, winning percentage is fine. Not too slow either, especially after hi-speed button came out. Maybe I'll put 1 Sanctuary there instead of PA, not sure yet.
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Re: Phat Thread for Fat Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21984.msg282512#msg282512
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2011, 06:20:29 pm »
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The deck has generated a bit of traffic in chat and elsewhere, so here it is. It's pretty good for FG farming, though it does have a few autoquits (Decay, Jezebel, Hecate maybe too). On the other hand there's also a lot of FGs that are near-impossible to lose (Akebono, Destiny, Elidnis, Eternal Crusader, Ferox, Fire Queen, Incarnate, Miracle, Morte, Neptune, Paradox, Serket are all 90% or better), and it can also fight through PC surprisingly well.
It's a bit annoying that two impossible FGs got added in 1.27 as I don't like autoquitting, but on the other hand the other three are in the super-easy category, so I guess the winrate stays at around 60%.
Edit: As this is the Phat deck thread, here's some reasoning why the deck is so big:
Firstly, it's a real strategy against some gods to just grind them out and trade Permanent for PC, which wouldn't work if the deck was small; for example Divine Glory has 12 Explosions and we have 6 HGs and 5 + 2 (because of TU) Eternities, so the Phase Shields will stay untouched forever if you play your cards right.
Secondly, the deck has several cards that it does NOT want to draw early (Animate Weapon, Twin Universe, Anubis, Fractal, Quintessence), but that are vital as win conditions. Increasing the deck size means smaller chance to draw them and bigger chances to draw the cards you want early game.
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Re: Phat Thread for Fat Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21984.msg282517#msg282517
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2011, 07:07:39 pm »
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It's a bit annoying that two impossible FGs got added in 1.27 as I don't like autoquitting, but on the other hand the other three are in the super-easy category, so I guess the winrate stays at around 60%.
Edit: As this is the Phat deck thread, here's some reasoning why the deck is so big:
Firstly, it's a real strategy against some gods to just grind them out and trade Permanent for PC, which wouldn't work if the deck was small; for example Divine Glory has 12 Explosions and we have 6 HGs and 5 + 2 (because of TU) Eternities, so the Phase Shields will stay untouched forever if you play your cards right.
Secondly, the deck has several cards that it does NOT want to draw early (Animate Weapon, Twin Universe, Anubis, Fractal, Quintessence), but that are vital as win conditions. Increasing the deck size means smaller chance to draw them and bigger chances to draw the cards you want early game.
Pretty interesting deck. Can you start a thread and give tips and strategy, perheps win rate too? If it sparks enough interest, maybe it'll even make it to the False God Archieves. :)
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Re: Phat Thread for Fat Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21984.msg282793#msg282793
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2011, 02:55:51 am »
Is Time the best element for large decks? 3 decks posted so far all have Time in them.
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Re: Phat Thread for Fat Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21984.msg282816#msg282816
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2011, 03:11:55 am »
Is Time the best element for large decks? 3 decks posted so far all have Time in them.
That's really just because Hourglasses are used extensively to burn through your deck.  As far as best goes...that still has yet to be decided.

Btw:  Perve's deck is THE Timebow I use for FG grinding; works great.
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Re: Phat Thread for Fat Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21984.msg282852#msg282852
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2011, 03:58:36 am »
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i made a deck help thread about it but nobody replied  :( i haven't tried this deck in a wile 

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Re: Phat Thread for Fat Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21984.msg282878#msg282878
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A deck I use solely for fun against AI5

 

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