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pharoah deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10072.msg121655#msg121655
« on: July 23, 2010, 03:13:44 am »
i really want to make a good pharoah deck any advice money is not a problem...i would prefer for this deck to be good in pvp

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Re: pharoah deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10072.msg121867#msg121867
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2010, 11:44:58 am »
I don't have a lot of experience with Pharaoh decks but I would try something like this maybe?  I was beating Half-Bloods pretty well with this.

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Maybe it'll help you get started.  You might need more Pillars if you make an unupgraded version.

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Re: pharoah deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10072.msg121918#msg121918
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2010, 01:50:32 pm »
Good in pvp is a problem, because a Pharaoh deck is indirect (Pharaoh > Scarabs > Devour), slow ( :time quanta intensive) and control-oriented (well at least it is intended to work that way). In pvp you kinda meet a lot of rush decks that aim to polish you off in maybe 4 to 8 turns.

Dragoon's deck looks decent, however I would splash at least one quantum tower (replace  :time tower) to pay for the SoGs and provide some sort of quantum defence. Switching two seems good to me, because you can generate a little more  :gravity and you might be able to pay for 1 protect artifact, which would come in useful in many cases. What you can do is start off from there and calibrate it accordingly if you're gonna be playing around with this deck concept extensively  :)

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Re: pharoah deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10072.msg122214#msg122214
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2010, 07:22:58 pm »
while you guys are here do you think you could help me with my RoL/Hope deck here is what i am using right now like i said money or rares in no problem i have em
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Re: pharoah deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10072.msg122909#msg122909
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2010, 04:25:08 pm »
while you guys are here do you think you could help me with my RoL/Hope deck here is what i am using right now like i said money or rares in no problem i have em
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-1 Luciferin, -1QuantumTower, +1Electrocuter and you'll be all set  ;)

ps: the improved miracle's a nice touch. but i don't think you'll be using it that often.. -1ImprovedMiracle if you feel confident

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Re: pharoah deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10072.msg122922#msg122922
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2010, 04:42:02 pm »
while you guys are here do you think you could help me with my RoL/Hope deck here is what i am using right now like i said money or rares in no problem i have em
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-1 Luciferin, -1QuantumTower, +1Electrocuter and you'll be all set  ;)

ps: the improved miracle's a nice touch. but i don't think you'll be using it that often.. -1ImprovedMiracle if you feel confident
-well you'll need luciferin against gemini, elidnis and some other gods so i wont take out luciferin
-2 electrocuters is enough for fighting fgs
-quantum tower is used for shards(so your aether and light quanta wont be touched especially if your low on aether quanta early on)

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Re: pharoah deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10072.msg122936#msg122936
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2010, 04:54:46 pm »
point taken.. let's keep luciferin then  :D
Electrocuters.. imo 2-3 is perfect. 3 just increases your chance of drawing one, but i guess 2 isn't so bad  :)

however i cannot agree regarding the Quantum Tower. if anything, it would boost effectiveness of the opponent's Black Hole. for Shards' purposes.. i instead recommend a simple Nova. for a 0 cost, it allows all your shards to be played (:

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Re: pharoah deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10072.msg122980#msg122980
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2010, 05:26:44 pm »
well you could always replace a Qt for another aether tower :)

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Re: pharoah deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10072.msg123282#msg123282
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2010, 09:21:58 pm »
Personally, I find Luciferin and Miracle to be in the way. I'd skip those, and replace Dragons with Archangels to make the games a lot faster. The strategy changes a bit, but I've been farming for weeks with that and gotten better results (as debated in the comments at the bottom of this wiki article: http://elementswiki.co.cc/decks/ray-of-light-hope-deck/).
I have one more Aether Tower and no Quantum Tower, but I think I might actually change that. If you want, add one more Electrocutor.

As for Pharaoh decks, they simply aren't effective in PvP. Fractal Scarabs are better for that, but not terribly good either. That said, if you want to make it as good as possible, you will simply have to stall. Basically what Dragoon posted with +1 Pharaoh and -6 Precogs is what I would do. Good luck =)
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Re: pharoah deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10072.msg123459#msg123459
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2010, 11:53:09 pm »
i feel like against certain gods it is neccesary to have dragons

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Re: pharoah deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10072.msg123768#msg123768
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2010, 05:42:03 am »
don't misunderstand, there's nothing wrong with having Dragons  :)
in fact, at mid-late game where we'd have more-than-enough  :light Quantum, Dragons seem to be the way to go~  :D

However, if played correctly, Archangels allow the game to end a few turns earlier due to lower cost (but lower dmg too.. so its a matter of timing when you play them)

my point is, don't worry about having dragons (: in fact most RoL Hope decks have'em  :D

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Re: pharoah deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10072.msg125520#msg125520
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2010, 12:36:00 pm »
I don't have a lot of experience with Pharaoh decks but I would try something like this maybe?  I was beating Half-Bloods pretty well with this.

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Maybe it'll help you get started.  You might need more Pillars if you make an unupgraded version.
i like adding 1-2 dragons because youcan block scarabs easily with heal/shields
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