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pharaoh spam https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8450.msg97334#msg97334
« on: June 21, 2010, 12:31:33 am »
this is my current deck its supposed to be a sort of rainbow/pharaoh spam deck, it can now beat lv3AI's on a regular baisis, have an idea for it, but need pharaohs :(

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STRATEGY: try to stall with sundial, reverse time, fog shield, and steal, while i get up death quantums, i have 43 cards because i use sundial, so i have draw power to make up for it, once i have mummy out i almost always have a reverse time to go with it, scarabs are l33t creature control (yes, i just said "l33t"  :o ) heal myself with empathic bond to try to get element mastery  ;D

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Re: pharaoh spam https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8450.msg97446#msg97446
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2010, 03:26:58 am »
why not take out the mummys and rewinds for 4 pharaohs instead?
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Re: pharaoh spam https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8450.msg97458#msg97458
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2010, 03:56:25 am »
The cards are great... on their own, however thats really the problem. They dont have much synergy with each other.

1)Im guessing you arent using pharoas because you dont have any correct? Cant do anything about that, using Rewind is just fine.
2)No need for an otyugh. Unupped they are next to worthless with only 3 hp, and thats the point of your scarabs anyways. Id replace it with a time factory, as you seem to use  :time the most. Your mark wont be enough.
3)2 boneyards is really overkill. I would replace at least 1 with a bone wall. Especially since you will need more than 1 shield.
4)You dont need the firefly queen. It will just take up space, and you really need the  :life for your bonds. Between the pharoahs, and 1 boneyard, you will have plenty of creature spawning. Replace it with some type of mass creature control, I would suggest Rain of Fire. Parralel universe, what do you plan on using it on? you dont need another pharoah after 3 in all honesty, and you probably will only be able to get the quanta for 2-3 at a time anyways. I would suggest adding in a graboid as a replacement. That will give it some speed to keep your opponent on his toes.

Now, if you want to keep it at 30 cards, then thats all, however, I would suggest adding 2-3 sundials to stall your opponent when things get tough.

Im no deck master though, but I have been playing and farming false gods for quite a while, so I do still sorta know what im talking about. I personally dont prefer pharoahs, but thats the best advice I can give you since you want to keep them in here
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Re: pharaoh spam https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8450.msg97507#msg97507
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2010, 05:21:37 am »
quintessence (maybe even 2 times) would be a great addition too

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Re: pharaoh spam https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8450.msg97603#msg97603
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2010, 09:53:45 am »
Not sure where you're gonna get all the  :death quanta from. One look at the deck and it's quite obvious that you aren't maximizing the quanta generation of a rainbow too. I recommend the following changes:

Change Mark to  :death
-1 Procrastination, -1 Short Sword, -1 Bone Yard, -1 FFQ, -1 Otyugh
+1 Rain of Fire, +1 Ice Shield, +1 Fallen Elf, +1 Eagle's Eye, +1 Dimensional Shield

Even then it's not exactly a smooth deck though. I don't think a miracle would be much use because you wouldn't have enough  :light but at the same time I'm quite sure you lack regen. It should perform a little better with those modifications though.

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Re: pharaoh spam https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8450.msg97904#msg97904
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2010, 05:52:39 pm »
1)Im guessing you arent using pharoas because you dont have any correct? Cant do anything about that, using Rewind is just fine.
question: where do you get pharaoh's? i cant find them in the bazaar

2)No need for an otyugh. Unupped they are next to worthless with only 3 hp, and thats the point of your scarabs anyways. Id replace it with a time factory, as you seem to use   the most. Your mark wont be enough.
okay, but ONE time pillar is kind of counterproductive, i will add another graboid instead.

EDIT: actually im putting in a fire shield

3)2 boneyards is really overkill. I would replace at least 1 with a bone wall. Especially since you will need more than 1 shield.
at one time i did have one, however, i found that i never have enough
death quantums :(

4)You dont need the firefly queen. It will just take up space, and you really need the  :life for your bonds. Between the pharoahs, and 1 boneyard, you will have plenty of creature spawning. Replace it with some type of mass creature control, I would suggest Rain of Fire.
i dont like rain of fire because it damages my creatures as well, so i put in lightning, to kill annoying maxwells demons, dragons, and other annoying pests, or to lower their HP enough so i can eat them

Now, if you want to keep it at 30 cards, then thats all, however, I would suggest adding 2-3 sundials to stall your opponent when things get tough.
i will think about that one :)

Im no deck master though, but I have been playing and farming false gods for quite a while, so I do still sorta know what im talking about. I personally dont prefer pharoahs, but thats the best advice I can give you since you want to keep them in here

im basically trying to get money, cards, and rank, until i can afford to make other decks.

thank you so much, BluePriest, :D im gonna go test out my new deck(picture edited)

EDIT: THANK YOU SO MUCH! i just won 3 times in a row! :D

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Re: pharaoh spam https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8450.msg97909#msg97909
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2010, 05:57:56 pm »
wait wut ....... why does rain of fire damage your creatures=?
btw pharaos are rares you need to win them i would suggest you to try top 50 there are sometimes farms where you can easily get pharaos and those things

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Re: pharaoh spam https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8450.msg97925#msg97925
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2010, 06:14:49 pm »
wait wut ....... why does rain of fire damage your creatures=?
btw pharaos are rares you need to win them i would suggest you to try top 50 there are sometimes farms where you can easily get pharaos and those things
i read it wrong XP  thx lol

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Re: pharaoh spam https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8450.msg98653#msg98653
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2010, 06:19:20 pm »
So... let's list the main problems I see with the deck.

- It requires large amounts of 4 different quanta (:time :death :life :fire)
- It needs time to set up, but it lacks defenses to do so.
- It needs a number of cards to set up a combo.
- All this has to work unupgraded and without rares you don't have.

It might be hard to solve all of them, but I'll try.

- Replacing the fire shield and procrastination with eg. 2 fog shields lowers the use of fire quanta and time quanta and improves your defenses.
- Remove 1 boneyard because indeed 1 is enough. In fact you could remove both boneyards and rain of fire, and instead concentrate on speeding up the mummy+rewind combo.
- Short sword and graboid might be a good source of damage, but they are not useful in your combo. Replacing them with eg. 2 reverse times (or an Eternity if you have one), would increase your chances of igniting the combo, while you can still use any excess reverse times on your opponent.
- The whole deck still needs a number of cards to work properly, so you might add an hourglass to help in case of a bad draw.
- The deck is still quite heavy on :time, especially if you add hourglasses, so adding a few :time factories might help.

The resulting deck might look like that:
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Of course you don't have to make all these changes, just change anything that fits your playing style. I just hope my suggestions help you to develop your idea.
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Re: pharaoh spam https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8450.msg98815#msg98815
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2010, 09:00:14 pm »
thank you!

might i suggest an ice shield? or a sundial? or a dusk mantle (because it has a 50% instead of 40%)

but thank you very much! i will tell you if i need help when i get my pharaos!


P.S. the rare farm thingy from SG isnt working right now, so can you tell me the best place to try to get pharaos from?

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Re: pharaoh spam https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8450.msg98880#msg98880
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2010, 10:23:58 pm »
The problem with ice shield and dusk mantle is that both are quite expensive. You won't be able to play those early, so by the time you play a shield you'll already be low on health. Shields are much more useful if you can play them early (For example playing a fog shield on turn 2 will usually block more attacks overall than playing a dusk mantle on turn 6).

When you start battling AI5 and AI6 then Ice Shield/Permafrost might be a better option because it offers better protection for late game, and these battles take longer, but against AI3 and top50 you definitely should go for the cheaper shield.

Sundials on the other hand are a good addition. I'm not sure how many you should take, but try for yourself.

As for the rare farm thingy, try refreshing your browser, it sometimes helps.
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Re: pharaoh spam https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8450.msg98959#msg98959
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2010, 12:21:55 am »
kthx  ;)

 

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