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Oty + Druid Rainbow versus HB https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39592.msg492038#msg492038
« on: May 03, 2012, 02:21:51 pm »
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This is the rainbow i've built to fight HBs. Everytime I get a new upped card and try to add to it the performance changes substantially. Unfortunately, I haven't made a 'version history' of them to know which ones are more efficient. This is one of the shorter versions.

The main issues are when i face rusher AIs. Seems like my healing is not enough to wait for the permafros or a stolen shield. Since i face all kinds of decks, cards like purify, enchant e deflag seem to me as essential. I think it needs quanta balancing too, There is always low quanta on starting to play theses expensive cards and lots of it when i take control of the game. Anyway, it has an acceptable winning rate on PvP2.

The main idea is to play quint oty, druid and eternity soon to creature control and mutant damage. The rest of the cards are pretty much for survival...

Any kind comments and sugestions are very welcome.
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Re: Oty + Druid Rainbow versus HB https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39592.msg492068#msg492068
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2012, 03:26:28 pm »
that looks pretty good, actually. not sure if you really need 3 hourglasses, unless you plan to bait for PC, which is fine (albeit expensive, if you ask me).

to speed it up, i'm thinking upgrading it (sanctuaries cost less, so does quintessence), so that might solve your quanta balance...

i took the opposite road when i started upgrading my decks: i started by upping my quantum pillars, and it really does speed up deployment (which is good)

just so i get the strategy: you pop your boneyards, then a quinted oty and a quinted druid, so you have your horde. that's it?

what is your top target for enchant artifact? the shield or the eternity? maybe you could take out rain of fire for a second one? RoF seems overkill considering you've got a quinted oty, but i may be wrong...
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Re: Oty + Druid Rainbow versus HB https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39592.msg492069#msg492069
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2012, 03:27:22 pm »
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This is the rainbow i've built to fight HBs. Everytime I get a new upped card and try to add to it the performance changes substantially. Unfortunately, I haven't made a 'version history' of them to know which ones are more efficient. This is one of the shorter versions.

The main issues are when i face rusher AIs. Seems like my healing is not enough to wait for the permafros or a stolen shield. Since i face all kinds of decks, cards like purify, enchant e deflag seem to me as essential. I think it needs quanta balancing too, There is always low quanta on starting to play theses expensive cards and lots of it when i take control of the game. Anyway, it has an acceptable winning rate on PvP2.

The main idea is to play quint oty, druid and eternity soon to creature control and mutant damage. The rest of the cards are pretty much for survival...

Any kind comments and sugestions are very welcome.

 How will you attack the opponent? (LOL)  A golem with quint. wouldn't be bad.
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Re: Oty + Druid Rainbow versus HB https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39592.msg492119#msg492119
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2012, 04:22:51 pm »
that looks pretty good, actually. not sure if you really need 3 hourglasses, unless you plan to bait for PC, which is fine (albeit expensive, if you ask me).

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what is your top target for enchant artifact? the shield or the eternity? maybe you could take out rain of fire for a second one? RoF seems overkill considering you've got a quinted oty, but i may be wrong...

In fact, seems much hourglasses, but I was actually thinking of geting one more! lol That is because often they come after 3-8 turns, to late agains most rushers. And yes, they are good as bait, not so expensive because of  :time mark.

Enchant is for Eternity, can't rely on victory without it.

Rain of fire saves me when i face many poisonous creatures or against :earth HB who gives too much health to their creatures with plate armor/ Basilisk.

For upgrading order I was considering Rain of Fire for considerable cost drop and then pillars. The others, costing 4 or less are not too hard to put in game.

How will you attack the opponent? (LOL)  A golem with quint. wouldn't be bad.

Very good pointing, Damage. Sometimes the games becomes excessively long because of low damage. I avoided doing so to keep low deck size. I will start trying now a 42 cards for your suggestion. I don't think that I will need more pillars, right?
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Re: Oty + Druid Rainbow versus HB https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39592.msg492141#msg492141
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2012, 04:46:41 pm »
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Very good pointing, Damage. Sometimes the games becomes excessively long because of low damage. I avoided doing so to keep low deck size. I will start trying now a 42 cards for your suggestion. I don't think that I will need more pillars, right?

maybe long games are not your cup of tea, but seeing a druid with a bunch of boneyards, i'm thinking damage isn't a real problem. then again, i haven't tested it.

to answer your question, you don't need more. it seems as if you'll be almost swimming in quantum late-game. you've got 19 pillars in a 40 card deck. seems more than enough. a buddy of mine has got 21 towers in his 60 card rainbow, so... yeah...
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Re: Oty + Druid Rainbow versus HB https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39592.msg492145#msg492145
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2012, 04:53:36 pm »
Whoa, Timebow. Been an age since i last saw one.
FFQ could fit nicely there as another mutation fodder. Another EA for the shield would also be nice. Or changing it to Bone Wall instead.
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Re: Oty + Druid Rainbow versus HB https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39592.msg492148#msg492148
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2012, 05:06:06 pm »
I would focus on upping the Quantum pillars. Once you have a few upped you can drastically cut down on the number that you need and it should improve your draw chance.

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Re: Oty + Druid Rainbow versus HB https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39592.msg492188#msg492188
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2012, 06:20:55 pm »
I would focus on upping the Quantum pillars. Once you have a few upped you can drastically cut down on the number that you need and it should improve your draw chance.

 Well,I didn't.As like CCYB,I'd up 6 novas to supernovas and change mark to entropy.Then,replace'em with 6 quantum pillars.
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Re: Oty + Druid Rainbow versus HB https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39592.msg492220#msg492220
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2012, 07:31:53 pm »
okay, so focus on upping novas and quanta towers. regardless. better and more stable quanta means smaller deck and better draw chance. And you can use those cards for so many decks. how many decks can you use upped bonyards for? not as many.

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Re: Oty + Druid Rainbow versus HB https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39592.msg492359#msg492359
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2012, 11:00:29 pm »
IMO needs more shields, maybe a Bonewall or another Permafrost or two.

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Re: Oty + Druid Rainbow versus HB https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39592.msg492371#msg492371
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2012, 11:11:35 pm »
With and RoF a bonewall is VERY good

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Re: Oty + Druid Rainbow versus HB https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39592.msg492409#msg492409
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2012, 12:11:59 am »
you can take out 3 or 4 quantum pillars as it is right now and it should still be fine

sundials should help you a lot with rushes and help you make a faster setup

a pharaoh or FFQ (like suggested) could be usefull for mutation fooder or even as nom fooder for oty to make skeletons (wich can turn into random creatures using eternity) and grow your Bone Wall if you decide to add one in the deck

 

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