opinions/tips/what to upgrade next?

[rohlfo]

hi there, this is the deck I've been using recently to farm level 5 (with quite good success tbh)
just wondering what's key to upgrade first, and generally people's opinions? I'm sure it's no new idea, but perhaps slightly different line-up to others?
I also have an un-upped SoR and a SoD should that be the best thing to upgrade (and add) next?
thanks 

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[teffy]

Upgrade Quantum Pillars first, they are also useful in most anti FG decks,they are by far the most used (and upgraded) pillars in the game.
Then Lobotomizer and Eternity (this could be bad, if you want to play unupgraded PvP Duel games.
(not PvP1))

The rest: Upgrade it, if you don´t have a lack of  . Then upgrade Dimensional Shields first.

[rohlfo]

sweet, upgraded one pillar as you can see, but getting enough  is always the issue....

[nerd1]

in fact, the quantum pillars are unnecessary, as you get your opponents cards too, and i would rather have a lobotomizer than an eternity, so i would tell you to upgrade the aether towers first, so after this deck you can make rol/ hope.

[rohlfo]

interesting, will have to try it out.
As to eternity, very useful I've found, to not draw out, and also to 'choose' which opponent card to 'mindgate'. I've two lobotomizers anyway?
thanks

[rohlfo]

without quantum pillars eternity becomes pointless in the deck though, as I might not get any time....so would have to win with a 30 card deck which against level 5 is not always easy given the amount of health you have to chew through before a win...!

[lukce]

You should add lobo in here.

[Wynden]

Exchange 3-4 Aether Pillars for Pendulums, and take out all quantum pillars/towers.
Eternity seems like a waste though, if it's the ONLY time card in your entire deck. Make it a time/aether duo instead, with Dragons, Rewinds, Hourglasses, and more!

.....That, or add some Eternities & Animate Weapons in this deck, so you can reverse time all of their cards.

Also, -lightning. If you're gonna reverse everything, it's pointless.
That said, you should probably make a decision between lobo/eternity. Both are good, but are strong differently.

[rohlfo]

I did originally have it without Eternity.
The reason I added it was because with level 5 I was sometimes running out of cards to draw before winning...this way I can avoid that.
My strategy is kinda as follows:
try get mindgates going, use lobo, lightning to deal with anything at start.
control game with mindgates as you know what opponent will draw, control with lobo, play dimension shields for damage control, play SoG to slowly trickle life back in for EM.
end with eternity to 'mindgate', for example, a dragon, play out 4 dragons, win/use eternity at end to avoid drawing out.

loosing lightnings maybe an idea. Useful early on before system gets into gear, but perhaps without it'll get into gear faster....hmmm, will have to experiment, thanks for feedback!

[Wynden]

If that's the case, then make it more of a duo/add more cards in the deck.
If you're running out of cards, there's a reason for that: you either don't have enough cards, or your deck's too reliant on your enemy's cards.

2 different weapons are only significant if you have animate weapon, or both are crucial to your deck. Both are not crucial to the deck, and can easily be replaced. Take one or the other out: Eternity or Lobo.

You need more independent damage; cards that don't rely on your opponent's to get you the win. Add Dragons, Immortals, Spiders.

Just because you can get your opponent's creatures doesn't mean that it'll be useful to you. You, yourself, only have so much quanta as well, and it's not a guarantee that you'll get the quanta you need/pillars from your opponent.

I still think you need some independent source to generate time quanta and to make this more of a duo rather than a splashed mono. I would suggest cards like procrastination as an alternate to phase shield, if you're going to add a lot of shards into this deck. I would suggest you to pack 3 or 4 time pendulums in the deck for some aether pillars. You don't necessarily need to generate 12 copies of each card each turn.

You have to remember that AI5 is a random culmination of upped/unupped cards gathered from the two elements in its name. This said, mindgate might not be the most efficient card to use against them in every situation.

[rohlfo]

2 different weapons are only significant if you have animate weapon, or both are crucial to your deck. Both are not crucial to the deck, and can easily be replaced. Take one or the other out: Eternity or Lobo.

think it would have to be lobo in that case.

You need more independent damage; cards that don't rely on your opponent's to get you the win. Add Dragons, Immortals, Spiders.

is an idea and have tried, find dragon and whatever I mindgate is enough in many cases (not for pvp or top 50, but AI5)

Just because you can get your opponent's creatures doesn't mean that it'll be useful to you. You, yourself, only have so much quanta as well, and it's not a guarantee that you'll get the quanta you need/pillars from your opponent.

it's true when I take out the quantum pillars, but with them in I generate my own, plus at least the same as opponent, so normally ok, if anything, eather is the element I sometimes run out of

You have to remember that AI5 is a random culmination of upped/unupped cards gathered from the two elements in its name. This said, mindgate might not be the most efficient card to use against them in every situation.

I'll agree with that, it isn't. But in many cases it works a treat, as I'll be using more upped cards/animals etc despite not having the electrum to afford myself...

Again, many thanks for tips and suggestions, I do try them out, but tend to mind myself coming back to a very similar line-up as posted at the top, at least for that style. Obviously a totally new approach, i.e. time and eather changes things so much it's a completely new deck rather than a tweak

[rohlfo]

so after a bit more cash and couple of changes I feel it's definitely improved it's win/EM rate for AI5, but same idea.

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