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Re: Opinion Needed https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32895.msg416076#msg416076
« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2011, 05:38:13 pm »
@ZMasashi 1. This is true that Dragons can help against shields, but there are few instances where you will be completely stopped by one. In particular Hope can get to extremely high levels of defense, but each of its usual fuel creatures (Fireflies and RoLs) are delicious treats for your Scarabs. But most shields will not completely stop your damage flow (except for Dim Shield, but dragons won't help there anyways) and since you will be eating all of their creatures and stopping the rest with Bonewall it's unnecessary to add dragons. I think Chimera is a very good idea though, being able to ignore all shields entirely. Also it is very stylish.

2. Skull Shield works best against weak creatures, which you will be eating anyways.

I still think two Reverse Times is insufficient for getting your Pharaoh out in a timely manner- and especially insufficient as you intend to rewind Skeletons. As a previous poster is doing in his own I suggest adding an Eternity or two- I am a great fan of two Eternity decks.

Same goes for Boneyard/Skull Shield. You will want those out on the table as soon as possible- even for something you don't particularly need to have at any time (like Plagues) or only need at the last minute (Bonewalls) I wouldn't take less than two.

I also would not recommend adding  Dune Scorpion/Momentum to this deck for several reasons. Primarily my concern is that your deck is over-saturated with themes already. You have Dragons rush, you have Reverse Time Skeletons, Reverse Time Mummies, Skull Shield Boneyard, Bonewall Scarabs- one or two of these is sufficient for a deck. These is made especially bad by the fact that Dune Scorpion is useless without Momentum- having these two star crossed lovers meet at once is highly improbable. A Momentum or two for passing shields might be a good idea though. If you really want to do all these different things I suggest making a large 40-50 card deck with lots of Hourglasses, Bonewalls and Sundials.

But of course it goes without saying that I'm not trying to force my ideas upon you, if you find it more effective or fun to act contrarily to my suggestions then of course, do as it pleases you.

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Re: Opinion Needed https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32895.msg416082#msg416082
« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2011, 06:04:33 pm »
@ZMasashi 1. This is true that Dragons can help against shields, but there are few instances where you will be completely stopped by one. In particular Hope can get to extremely high levels of defense, but each of its usual fuel creatures (Fireflies and RoLs) are delicious treats for your Scarabs. But most shields will not completely stop your damage flow (except for Dim Shield, but dragons won't help there anyways) and since you will be eating all of their creatures and stopping the rest with Bonewall it's unnecessary to add dragons. I think Chimera is a very good idea though, being able to ignore all shields entirely. Also it is very stylish.

2. Skull Shield works best against weak creatures, which you will be eating anyways.

I still think two Reverse Times is insufficient for getting your Pharaoh out in a timely manner- and especially insufficient as you intend to rewind Skeletons. As a previous poster is doing in his own I suggest adding an Eternity or two- I am a great fan of two Eternity decks.

Same goes for Boneyard/Skull Shield. You will want those out on the table as soon as possible- even for something you don't particularly need to have at any time (like Plagues) or only need at the last minute (Bonewalls) I wouldn't take less than two.

I also would not recommend adding  Dune Scorpion/Momentum to this deck for several reasons. Primarily my concern is that your deck is over-saturated with themes already. You have Dragons rush, you have Reverse Time Skeletons, Reverse Time Mummies, Skull Shield Boneyard, Bonewall Scarabs- one or two of these is sufficient for a deck. These is made especially bad by the fact that Dune Scorpion is useless without Momentum- having these two star crossed lovers meet at once is highly improbable. A Momentum or two for passing shields might be a good idea though. If you really want to do all these different things I suggest making a large 40-50 card deck with lots of Hourglasses, Bonewalls and Sundials.

But of course it goes without saying that I'm not trying to force my ideas upon you, if you find it more effective or fun to act contrarily to my suggestions then of course, do as it pleases you.
I believe we are all in some way right, and everyone should play in their own style. I agree about the Dune Scorpions totally. I have made this deck using it:

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Apparently the chance to get both Momentum and Dune Scorpion in the beggining is too small. I learned something from your deck though... (about using secondary element pendulums, instead of primary element pillars. I will reconsider it later a few more times, but mainly I like it.) Anyway, I'll make another deck witch will use Dune Scorpions, Momentums, and other poisoning ways, and see how it works... So... the idea about Dune Scorpion failed :D I'll run trough the post again, so I get more good ideas to work... By the way, I tried chimera, and it didn't work well, I couldn't stuck enough monsters on my side to call it ready for summoning. But it is stylish, and will for sure get into the deck...

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Re: Opinion Needed https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32895.msg416092#msg416092
« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2011, 06:27:36 pm »
There's a lot to reply on, and I haven't much time. So instead of quoting everyone and everything, I'll just make points.

-Your first reply after mine, you said you use Bone Dragons to surpass shields. Not hard to find that my rebuttal to that: Chimeras. I just challenge you to try using one for a bit, see how you like it.

-As mentioned by someone else, Skull Shield isn't all that great because your Scarabs can "nom nom" the weak monsters...no need to stop their damage. Additionaly, it's not that much damage anyway for you to handle...or even a Chimera?

-One reason I have 4 Bone Walls is because you never know when you're going to need one, and so drawing one early will sometimes save your butt. This also allows you to "waste" one or two to prevent damage early, heaven forbid, before you get Scarabs up to keep it up.

-Your way of determining how many towers to use is kind of flawed. You have way too much :death, not enough :time in your case. There's a post somewhere here about how to determine how many to have (it's a stickied topic). Read that. I admit I even used it as a reference to help a bit. Anyway, 9 out of 32 cards are Bone Pillars/Towers. Do you know how likely it is NOT to get one in your first draw? Your chance of drawing 0 Bone Pillars out of the first 7 cards is about 7%. I'll take those chances...bad draws happen. I still don't want :death mark, because :death and :time are honestly a bit unpredictable how much I'll need. :gravity, on the other hand, I know what I need. It's low enough that I can control it. I rarely have too low :gravity, and also rarely have way too much. I'm also usually pretty good on :death and :time, but not as much as I am with :gravity.

-I've used Dune Scorpions and Momentum in my deck too in the past. Just too many cards to rely on; too many strategies. Mummies, Bone Walls, and Reverse Times offer so many strategies in just 3 cards that I don't need any other new strategies to cloud it up. Just my opinion -- use them if you like.

-You had trouble with Dimensional Shields, huh? Chimeras solve that problem. Don't want to use Chimeras? ADD Bone Walls. Don't take anything out. Have 33 cards. Force them to deck out. REMEMBER: Old Scarabs can eat new Scarabs! Use that to keep Bone Walls up.

-I'd use 2 Eternities if I had them. I only have 1. :( And I'd probably use at least 3, if not 4 Shards of Readiness i I had more; but only have 2 of those.

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Re: Opinion Needed https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32895.msg416337#msg416337
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2011, 02:11:14 am »
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Here is a Reverse Time Boneyard deck I just made. It works very poorly, but maybe it will be of some use to you as you try to make your own.

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Re: Opinion Needed https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32895.msg416345#msg416345
« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2011, 02:27:28 am »
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Here is a Reverse Time Boneyard deck I just made. It works very poorly, but maybe it will be of some use to you as you try to make your own.
That deck goes completely the opposite direction of the deck in the OP. It's also not very great.

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Re: Opinion Needed https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32895.msg416349#msg416349
« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2011, 02:35:13 am »
I posted a deck in this thread that did Reverse Time Mummies, and it worked well if I do say so myself. However the OP wanted to also incorporate reverse time on skeletons, so I thought I'd give that a shot.

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Re: Opinion Needed https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32895.msg416423#msg416423
« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2011, 08:24:44 am »
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Here is a Reverse Time Boneyard deck I just made. It works very poorly, but maybe it will be of some use to you as you try to make your own.
That deck goes completely the opposite direction of the deck in the OP. It's also not very great.
It's ok, the deck can help a lot... Maybe we can improve that one too, so it becomes better. I would add that you should really use only nonupgraded, and if possible, only buyable cards, so every noob can make this and try out...

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Re: Opinion Needed https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32895.msg416575#msg416575
« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2011, 05:40:03 pm »
Ok... here's what I made... I added chimera, and some more pendulums for gravity and time... Can anyone explain the spell called "Duality" to me... I don't understand how it works... :(

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Re: Opinion Needed https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32895.msg416707#msg416707
« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2011, 10:44:16 pm »
Well, I'm glad you added Chimera. You can try it out and see how you like it. :)

Do you have an Eternity? If you do, use it too. If not, then do you plan on using one when/if you get one?

If someone uses "duality", then a copy of the top card in their opponent's deck goes into their hand (the card that their opponent is about to draw). This not only lets you use your opponent's own card against them, but informs you on what they are about to draw so you can prepare for it ahead of time. If they first use Reverse Time, then use "duality", they can control what card they draw.

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Re: Opinion Needed https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32895.msg416919#msg416919
« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2011, 11:30:09 am »
Well, I'm glad you added Chimera. You can try it out and see how you like it. :)

Do you have an Eternity? If you do, use it too. If not, then do you plan on using one when/if you get one?

If someone uses "duality", then a copy of the top card in their opponent's deck goes into their hand (the card that their opponent is about to draw). This not only lets you use your opponent's own card against them, but informs you on what they are about to draw so you can prepare for it ahead of time. If they first use Reverse Time, then use "duality", they can control what card they draw.
Hey... I tried out Chimera, and it's amazing. It's a little harder to be summoned, but when summoned, it will save the life for sure. It's ability to surpass every shield, is just what I needed in most matches I lost without it...

I do not have an Eternity, and I'm not sure how it works. For example, if I use it's ability on a Mummy, will Mummy act the same way as the Reverse Time was cast of it, (turn into a Pharaoh), or will it just turn back into my deck?

Thank you for the explanation about Duality... I thought that Duality makes a copy of your own card, so it makes my AI3 opponent stack Dimensional Shield all the time... I had too much problems with that shield once, because he stacked it at least 4 or 5 times... I was using Bone Wall, witch I skillfully updated during the gameplay, but he overpassed it, and I coldn't do anything... :( Luckily, Chimera is on the duty now :), so I'm not anymore afraid of Dimensional Shield that much, though, simetimes I need to stuck up all 2 Pharaohs, to make it possible to summon the Chimera (someone's eating my Scarabs :D) Thank you for this amazing beast...

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Re: Opinion Needed https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32895.msg416935#msg416935
« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2011, 12:09:44 pm »
No problem; I'm glad you like the Chimera. :)

Having more Reverse Times will fix your problem with not having enough Pharoahs.

And yes; Eternity works just like Reverse Time. I know the description on it (and the Mummy card) are slightly misleading but if you use the Eternity's skill on a Mummy, it will turn into a Pharoah. It uses 3 :time instead of 2 though, but, I still use it even when I have a Reverse Time in my hand (if I have enough :time, anyway) because I like to "save" Reverse Times in case my Eternity gets stolen/destroyed or if I simply need/want to use Reverse Time twice in some future round (because Eternity can only use it's skill once per turn).

The AI3 opponent that uses Pharoahs and Scarabs has an Eternity, so you can win one from beating him (but [not to toot "my" own horn, so to speak] he's rather difficult). Eternity is also a common possible win from the "bonus" spin of beating the Bronze Arena 6 times in a row.

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Re: Opinion Needed https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32895.msg417032#msg417032
« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2011, 05:07:12 pm »
Have you done your 500 score quest? You can get your Eternity from there. I was dumb and I got a Farenheit. :(

But it's ok because I have three Eternities just from AI3 and maybe one from arena. The Pharaoh AI3 isn't especially hard IMO. I've won 10 Pharaohs from him, if that's any indication of how often I beat him.

 

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