OHKO Rainbow Deck, meant to use against anything with 100 HP

[ninetyfools]

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[I8SumOrangesNItWasK]

My decks use 6 cards to OTKO 100 HP, and the 2nd one appears to only need 5 upped. The ones you posted that link to use 8 (although, I do realize it's for 200 HP). I'm going to try to see if I can come up with a way to do 200 damage with 6 or at most 7 cards. So far I have ideas with Fractal (but on dragons, I think that's too much quanta for a 30-card deck with 6 sundials), Devonian Dragon/Mitosis/SoR (but not enough damage), etc...I'll try to come up with something and post here if I can.

[Sevs]

Your decks are either going to need more stalling or more drawing power. an hourglass would be a good addition.

And your crimson dragon OTK.

12 attack +3 blessing +1 momentum = 16 *2 skyblitz = 32 *3 = 96 damage.

Maybe i overlooked something but from the looks of it, you obviously didnt test this deck.

And I don't have stats yet; do you want them for AI3? I've never lost to them and played about 10 rounds but have been doing mainly PvP2 because it's so fun.

[I8SumOrangesNItWasK]

Your decks are either going to need more stalling or more drawing power. an hourglass would be a good addition.

And your crimson dragon OTK.

12 attack +3 blessing +1 momentum = 16 *2 skyblitz = 32 *3 = 96 damage.

Maybe i overlooked something but from the looks of it, you obviously didnt test this deck.

And I don't have stats yet; do you want them for AI3? I've never lost to them and played about 10 rounds but have been doing mainly PvP2 because it's so fun.

That quote was from my Amethyst Dragon deck...

Anyway, I've got an idea for a OTKO deck that hurts 200 HP and uses a 6-card combo, but, it requires 1 shard and 1 upgraded card and it's highly recomended that 2 other cards are upgraded. It also requires a TON of quanta in 1 element so I have to think of a good way to get that. I have an idea, but...well, let me work on this deck a bit and I'll post it when I feel finished or almost finished.

[vile]

I was looking this deck over for awhile and came up with the following 6 card combo that has the potential to do much higher damage(in the off chance of a SoD being used)

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Everyone should know exactly what the mitosis / SoR combo works. The amazing thing about it is. It makes PU look like a childs toy. Run this version. Watch your w/l ratio increase in your favor.

Purple Dragon/Rage Potion/Mitosis/Sor/Sky blitz

I threw in one Sosa and one Dissapation shield over bonewall. Take the stress off 
2x Snovas to full your dials. unless you upp your dials this is the only way to take advantage of your quanta effectively. 100% upped decks are preferable

[I8SumOrangesNItWasK]

@Vile: I was wanting to do something that could be done all at once in 1 turn before they have a chance to react. Doesn't SoR ONLY allowe creatures to use their skill immediately? Correct me if I'm wrong. As far as the dragon goes, it's too weak to make use of this...I've already considered it and turned down every possibility.

My goal was to creature a combo of cards that used less than 8 cards to OTKO something with 200 HP. After a lot of thought, time, and research, I came up with a 7-card combo (for the life of me, can't find one with 6). Unfortunately, this combo requires an upgraded card and a (very new) shard that a lot of people don't have access to yet. It also requires a LOT of quanta from a single element, and that can make it difficult in a 30-card deck (even with Cremation). The cards you will play, in order, are: Ruby Dragon (attack 15), [Improved] Blessing (raising attack to 18), Momentum (raising attack to 19), Fractal (giving you 5 more Ruby Dragons), Ruby Dragon x5 (each with an attack of 15 -- we're now up to 94), Shard of Patience (raising all 6 dragons' attack by 1, giving you 100 total attack), Sky Blitz (doubling their total attack to 200), and Chimera (becaues, if nothing else, all your creatures are stalled).

This is a great concept and all, but I can't come up with a deck using this concept that is good enough at keeping alive against the FG until I'm ready to swoop in for the kill. Granted, I'm kinda poor so working mostly with unupgraded cards, but still. My typical deck with a couple Bone Walls and Miracle wasn't enough (and of course 6 Sundials too) and I even added 2 Shards of Divinity and 2 Heals. O.O So then I took out all that crap and put in 3 Dimensional Shields and changed my mark to and kept the Bone Walls..but...still, not good enough. Maybe if I had 6 Dimensional Shields, but I can't afford it to try it. Does anyone want to? Here's what I was thinking:

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Note: I'm not sure what the code is for the upgraded Shard of Patience. It's not on the Deck Builder yet.

With 6 Dimensional Shields and 6 Sundials, you can essentially stall for 24 turns. If you start with 40 cards, 7 are in your hand (down to 33) and 6 more are drawn with Sundials (27 more). The first 3 turns you probably won't need something up to stall and may not have quanta for it anyway. 40 seems like a good number for deck size. Because of that, I was thinking something like this deck:

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I just have so many ideas swirling around in my head. I don't think I can beat the FG's too easily with this deck unupgraded, but if upgraded what's the potential? I appreciate any feedback on this, and if anyone can test out my deck ideas that'd be great!

[Sevs]

I like this process of thinking much better, counting the turns of stalling it has vs the amount of cards it will need.

As for your dragon statement, I hope you are talking about the unupped time dragon.

Some improvements and concerns.

-I dont have much experience with SoP, does chimera nullify the delay caused by it?
-Since you are not using TU in this deck have you thought of replacing the momentum and blessing for another SoP?
-I think i remember you saying that you like QTs over SN. but have you tried to make an SN version? I feel you can compress your deck down further if you do so.
- One of the big factors in making a good FG deck is speed. The faster the games the faster you achieve spins. The way to make games faster is to add drawing power(Hourglasses). Using this you can cut down upon some of the stalling power you have stuffed into the deck. so instead of stalling for the 24(27) turns required to draw every card in the deck, a couple hourglasses could reduce that by half.

[I8SumOrangesNItWasK]

As for your dragon statement, I hope you are talking about the unupped time dragon.

Both the unupped and upped versions seem too weak. They'll need too many SoR's to deal enough damage. I think the best I came up with is an 8-card combo.

-I dont have much experience with SoP, does chimera nullify the delay caused by it?

Yes. SoP delays all your creatures on the field that it's used on. If you send out any other creature, Chimera included, they aren't delayed.

-Since you are not using TU in this deck have you thought of replacing the momentum and blessing for another SoP?

Yes, I've thought of it, but in order to get 5 Ruby Dragons in your hand you have to have 3 cards in your hand. Those cards have to be SoP, Sky Blitz, and Chimera. If you had a 2nd SoP to use after Fractal, it'd only have the potential to be on 5 total Ruby Dragons instead of 6, thus reducing damage by quite a bit. Theoretically you could replace Momentum with a 2nd SoP to use before Fractal, but Momentum is better because we can control which quanta it takes from.

-I think i remember you saying that you like QTs over SN. but have you tried to make an SN version? I feel you can compress your deck down further if you do so.

I'd have to have mark, and then be very vulernable to BH, Discord, etc. If I threw Sanctuary back in..maybe...but who knows when I'd draw it. Also, I'd need so many Burning Pillars (or, need non-:fire creatures to cremate, thus putting even more cards into my deck because nothing can be revived like Minor Phoenixes) and I couldn't stall as much with Phase Shield. I could throw in other stall cards I guess like Bone Wall back in or Dusk Mantle/Ice Shield. Also, this wouldn't work so well with Hourglasses because I'd need a lot of .

- One of the big factors in making a good FG deck is speed. The faster the games the faster you achieve spins. The way to make games faster is to add drawing power(Hourglasses). Using this you can cut down upon some of the stalling power you have stuffed into the deck. so instead of stalling for the 24(27) turns required to draw every card in the deck, a couple hourglasses could reduce that by half.

Like I said, this really stresses . I also can't test things out for myself because I can't afford to upgrade so many cards. Any suggestions, though? And do you want to test it?

[furballdn]

I was looking this deck over for awhile and came up with the following 6 card combo that has the potential to do much higher damage(in the off chance of a SoD being used)

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Everyone should know exactly what the mitosis / SoR combo works. The amazing thing about it is. It makes PU look like a childs toy. Run this version. Watch your w/l ratio increase in your favor.

Purple Dragon/Rage Potion/Mitosis/Sor/Sky blitz

I threw in one Sosa and one Dissapation shield over bonewall. Take the stress off 
2x Snovas to full your dials. unless you upp your dials this is the only way to take advantage of your quanta effectively. 100% upped decks are preferable

I'm a bit skeptical about this. I feel more supernovas instead of quantum pillars would be better. Also not really sure why the SoSa and dissipation shield are there. They just serve to reduce the amount of quanta you have when each bit of quanta you have may be useful.

[gravebella]

for the unupped otk deck i suggest my instosis unupped deck. 

weakness : one black hole can ruined my deck. 

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[ninetyfools]

for the unupped otk deck i suggest my instosis unupped deck. 

weakness : one black hole can ruined my deck. 

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Version 2... BAD!
What about hope and all those annoying indestructible shields?