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Newish to Elements, Would like some help (Thanks!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5545.msg56117#msg56117
« on: April 20, 2010, 12:02:14 am »
Hey, I've only been playing Elements for about..2 days now. I get the basics but for the life of me, I can hardly beat level 2's most of the time. I decided to do something crazy (Hopefully I'm not going to regret it) and make my deck a Entropy/Gravity Deck..My Mark being Entropy.
Here's a picture of my deck, It was kind of thrown together on what I personally thought would work. :P (Which was probably a mistake!)
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Any help to make this an FG-Killer or at least a level 3-4 Killer would be GREAT! Thanks!
(Oh and Edit: I don't have any upgraded cards and am not even sure on how to do that..So..Yeah. :P)

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Re: Newish to Elements, Would like some help (Thanks!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5545.msg56120#msg56120
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2010, 12:08:03 am »
read  jmizzle7's guide (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1190.0.html) and youll have no problems, and follow scaredgirl's newbie tips (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,3329.0.html) (30 cards are usually far better than 60, etc.) and you will have great success in the future :)

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Re: Newish to Elements, Would like some help (Thanks!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5545.msg56123#msg56123
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2010, 12:12:51 am »
There is 1 (count 'em, one) and only 1 kind of deck that can yield consistent wins against the False Gods in Elements the Game.
This deck is called the Rainbow. (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/board,87.0.html)

Thus, I can't make this an FG killer. You'll have to go with a different deck for that.

Okay, I'm going to give your deck a once-over. Remember, the single most effective, simple thing you can do to improve a deck is to remove unnecessary cards. Your current deck is 60 cards large, which is huge. The best Level 3 killers are very fast and are quite small (30-35 cards). That's what you want to aim for. So, remove cards that don't help, or don't help that much.

Remove:
1 X Dagger (Replace with better weapon)
3 X Amethyst Pillar
1 X Dissipation Shield (Doesn't help all that much)
2 Chaos Seed (Random, won't help much)
3 X Nova (It only gives you 1 :entropy and 1 :gravity)
2 Mutation (Doesn't help that much for offense or defense)
5 X Gravity Pillar
1 X Fallen Elf (Same reason)
3 X Graviton Mercenary (Pretty weak, won't help much)
1 X Gravity Shield (Again, won't help much)
2 X Otyugh (Slow and expensive)
3 X Gravity Pull (You have lots of Momentum creatures, which don't hit Gravity Pulled creatures)
3 X Black Hole (Only good against Rainbows)

Yep. And that's pretty much what you get. Of course, Entropy/Gravity does not make the best deck ever. If you want to go either with Entropy or with Gravity, which I recommend, look here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1190.0.html) for some good decks.

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Re: Newish to Elements, Would like some help (Thanks!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5545.msg56138#msg56138
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2010, 12:21:40 am »
:O, Wow! Thanks alot. Didn't expect such fast responses I'm going to go read up and follow what you've both said. Thanks again! Though I am slightly apprehensive about the seemingly lack of pillars, but I'll fiddle with that on my own. Followed the Deckbuilding 101 link, Just beat my first level 3! :D

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Re: Newish to Elements, Would like some help (Thanks!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5545.msg56367#msg56367
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2010, 12:00:31 pm »
There is 1 (count 'em, one) and only 1 kind of deck that can yield consistent wins against the False Gods in Elements the Game.
Actually, so can Hope/RoL/Fractal and Nymphomania.
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Re: Newish to Elements, Would like some help (Thanks!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5545.msg56500#msg56500
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2010, 04:54:56 pm »
There is 1 (count 'em, one) and only 1 kind of deck that can yield consistent wins against the False Gods in Elements the Game.
Actually, so can Hope/RoL/Fractal and Nymphomania.
both can win against every fg?

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Re: Newish to Elements, Would like some help (Thanks!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5545.msg56809#msg56809
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2010, 01:06:15 am »
So, I've taken to that Deck builder 101 site and have made an exact copy of it (Entropy Deck). I've been fiddling around a bit with it trying to find a way to be able to farm Level 5. Not really working out so far it seems that the basic is the best so far. (I've been farming Level 3 like crazy and win about 80-85% of the time.) Now I have been scouring the forums for a good Entropy based deck for Level 5 farming but I cant seem to find anything really. If needed I can Upgrade cards, Or purchase anything necessary (Or farm anything necessary? :P) in order to be able to do this. Here's my deck! Any help would be greatly appreciated and any tips on how I should go about this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks alot!
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Re: Newish to Elements, Would like some help (Thanks!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5545.msg56863#msg56863
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2010, 04:05:53 am »
I'm glad you found my guide helpful, OhYeah. :) And using Entropy to boot! I think that deserves some karma for style points...

The big concept to understand when building PvE decks in Elements is that against levels 0-3 (and to a lesser extent, top 50), you don't need any defensive cards at all. Once you think you are ready to take on the half-bloods and/or false gods, you need to pack more defensive cards. If you still want to try out a mono-Entropy deck against the half-bloods, I would suggest taking another Maxwell's Demon and 1-2 Antimatter. Butterfly Effect is great for nasty permanents, but you don't have much access to creatures with 2 attack or less.

For more information on Half-Blood strategy, check out the discussion board located here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/board,58.0.html).

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Re: Newish to Elements, Would like some help (Thanks!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5545.msg56875#msg56875
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2010, 04:38:08 am »
For tackling Halfbloods I don't recommend Entropy; a little added defense is not going to work. I tried unupped Shrieker rush with Earthquakes, lost way more than I gained.

For an effective AI5 killer, I would recommend making an unupgraded rainbow deck. The one by Scaredgirl works very well.
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Re: Newish to Elements, Would like some help (Thanks!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5545.msg57097#msg57097
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2010, 03:52:26 pm »
I agree with Blood on this one, since you have a standard entropy rush deck there. 

When you choose AI4 or AI5 over AI3, you need to take into consideration the time each one of your bouts takes.  For example, if you can kill three AI3s in the time it takes you to smash through a 200HP half blood, you may just be better off bleeding your eyes out on AI3 (9 card chances + electrum vs. 3 card chances (slight chance for a rare) and mediocre amount of electrum).  Especially with entropy, you want to focus on speed rather than defense (since you have no way of Elemental Mastering AI4 or AI5, unless by pure luck).  Perhaps a butterfly would work with permanent control, but again, I see no need for such a thing in an AI3 deck. 

Are you planning on upgrading all of your dragons first?

I would strongly recommend against that- as if you upgrade towers first, you can get your drags out faster and end matches faster, thus securing you more electrum/hour score/hour over the long run.

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Re: Newish to Elements, Would like some help (Thanks!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5545.msg57133#msg57133
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2010, 06:29:13 pm »
Woops! I was planning on upgrading my dragons first, but I see that upgrading my pillars would be a much better idea. Time to farm level 3! :D (Oh and thanks for the tips/Help guys, I really appreciate it) Hehe instead of farming level 3 I'm farming level 4 now. It's actually really easy I take out the opponent in the same time as a level 3 basically. :D

 

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