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New Deck Idea- Poison (This has probably been thought of before) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12363.msg154471#msg154471
« on: September 08, 2010, 01:42:01 pm »
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That's the upped version I had in trainer. For those of you not so rich,

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There's less water monsters because the quanta producers are now pillars, not towers. I also added vultures to substitute for the abyss crawlers.

Any help/feedback? :)

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Re: New Deck Idea- Poison (This has probably been thought of before) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12363.msg154473#msg154473
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2010, 01:45:33 pm »
nice decks,just one question,why are there 6 skull bucklers in the upped deck? shields can't be turned into creatures you know...

ayoth

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Re: New Deck Idea- Poison (This has probably been thought of before) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12363.msg154483#msg154483
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2010, 01:56:42 pm »
The idea was to alfatoxin your enemy, play a skull shield, then go poison them massively. Problem is, skull shields can't be played till they're in your hand...see, 1|1's don't deal damage against a skull shield. If he plays empathy, go retrovirus them and restart the cycle. It will delay the empathy. And if things go out of hand retro again.

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Re: New Deck Idea- Poison (This has probably been thought of before) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12363.msg154507#msg154507
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2010, 02:31:48 pm »
Death QI is 6.3. Water QI is 6.75. Hm.. if you want more consistency, go with Pendulums instead of two different kinds of Towers. Chances are you won't draw Sapphire Towers, which means those Crawlers will clog up your hand along with the Aflatoxins you can't pay for yet and the shields you don't need. 4 Skull Bucklers are enough, although I would rather use Permafrost Shields to stop the enemy's creatures and buy time. That works better with pendulums as well.
I will note that in a stall, Physalia are quite enough to take someone down, though, and even Deadly Poisons are more consistent than those Crawlers. That's mainly preference though, feel free to ignore it. Since you are stalling, however, Permafrost and SoG's is an amazing combo.
Retroviruses take up a lot of space for their limited use, so I'm not convinced about those.
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Re: New Deck Idea- Poison (This has probably been thought of before) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12363.msg154511#msg154511
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2010, 02:36:45 pm »
If I remember right the QI should be near 5, so should I get 2 permafrost shields, sell 3 skullies, and get 6 deadly poisons? And sell 2 retros, sell all abyss crawlers and get 2 arctic dragons... Maybe... I'll go try that in trainer tomorrow morning gotta sleep now. It's almost midnight up here in Seoul LOL

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Re: New Deck Idea- Poison (This has probably been thought of before) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12363.msg154513#msg154513
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2010, 02:41:31 pm »
you don't understand what I mean,6 shields are wayyy to much unless they last only a limited time,so why bother putting 6 in there?

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Re: New Deck Idea- Poison (This has probably been thought of before) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12363.msg154515#msg154515
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2010, 02:43:24 pm »
I only have time for the upped one

@james, I use multiple shields to get them faster.
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At a glance I thought I would need some water towers, I'll change those 3 towers to 6 pendulums and sell 3 bone towers aswell.

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Re: New Deck Idea- Poison (This has probably been thought of before) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12363.msg154516#msg154516
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2010, 02:46:52 pm »
I only have time for the upped one

@james, I use multiple shields to get them faster.
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At a glance I thought I would need some water towers, I'll change those 3 towers to 6 pendulums and sell 3 bone towers aswell.
Yes,I know you use multiple shields to get them faster,what I mean is, don't use all 6,it's mainly going to be a waste of space,It'll clog up your hand

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Re: New Deck Idea- Poison (This has probably been thought of before) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12363.msg154517#msg154517
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2010, 02:48:29 pm »
Oh and just for fun I made a deathdeck yesterday
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Any help on this one?

???'s are Deathstalkers. Cost is 36303+(26*6)+(1500*6)= 36303+156+9000= 45,459.

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Re: New Deck Idea- Poison (This has probably been thought of before) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12363.msg154518#msg154518
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2010, 02:49:51 pm »
I only have time for the upped one

@james, I use multiple shields to get them faster.
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At a glance I thought I would need some water towers, I'll change those 3 towers to 6 pendulums and sell 3 bone towers aswell.
Yes,I know you use multiple shields to get them faster,what I mean is, don't use all 6,it's mainly going to be a waste of space,It'll clog up your hand
I switch from 3  :death skullies :death to 2  :water permafrost shields :water which I will all use.

ayoth

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Re: New Deck Idea- Poison (This has probably been thought of before) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12363.msg154519#msg154519
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2010, 02:51:13 pm »
Oh and just for fun I made a deathdeck yesterday
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Any help on this one?

???'s are Deathstalkers. Cost is 36303+(26*6)+(1500*6)= 36303+156+9000= 45,459.
Did you know that 3 ?'s give you a  ??? face?

Taldaran

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Re: New Deck Idea- Poison (This has probably been thought of before) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12363.msg154598#msg154598
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2010, 04:50:37 pm »
this Deathstalker/Unstoppable deck is interesting, but you are over-producing quanta, and sorry, for what purpose is this? PvP or PvE? Depending on circunstances you need some defensive stuff or your Dstalkers will die.. Against AI i suggest using virus or something that may draw attention of Fire Lances or be useful in someway. If you are going for pvp you could use a Bone Wall and Improved Plague also, so you can delay your opponent and get some time to keep poisoning.
By the way, it's just my opinion, and i know it's a fun deck

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