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Re: Is there a 500hp EM deck against plat? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36625.msg1002064#msg1002064
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2012, 12:07:39 pm »
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This is what I came up with after some trial and error. Only winning 25% or so, but the losses are usually obvious in the first few turns. Which is good because the wins are taking 15-20 minutes lol. But its worth it to see an opponents field full of sofos they can't use.

Edit: Can't figure out why my image isn't right, but the mark is life, and there are 2 quints. 1 for my mito'd sofo and 1 for the antimatter target.
this deck has some quanta issues: http://elements.alanbeam.net/qi.php?deckCode=4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+4sa+592+592+592+592+592+592+594+594+594+594+594+594+5c3+5c3+5c3+5c9+5ia+5lm+5lm+5lm+5lm+5lm+5lm+621+621+6qq+6qq+6qq+6qq+6qq+6qq+6qq+6rn+6rn+6rn+6rn+6rn+6rn+6s2+6u7+7gq+7k2+7k2+7q5+7q5+7q5+7q5+7q8+8pn&showImage=1
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Re: Is there a 500hp EM deck against plat? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36625.msg1002441#msg1002441
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2012, 07:52:36 pm »
Your quanta index tool is useless for anything other than shardless duos. My deck has way more QTs than any of these other offerings, plus the ability to protect them. I haven't had any trouble with quanta, except the occasional bad draw, but no deck is immune to that. Rushes hurt, when I can't get out enough sog/sanc in time. And not having any PAs against sofo spam.

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Re: Is there a 500hp EM deck against plat? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36625.msg1002530#msg1002530
« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2012, 02:44:32 am »
Take out the damselfly.
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Re: Is there a 500hp EM deck against plat? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36625.msg1002546#msg1002546
« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2012, 04:02:54 am »
The unupped damselfly is an important part of the deckout strategy, this deck is pointless without it.

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Re: Is there a 500hp EM deck against plat? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36625.msg1002551#msg1002551
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2012, 04:47:57 am »
The unupped damselfly is an important part of the deckout strategy, this deck is pointless without it.
Use the SoF for rewind fodder.
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Re: Is there a 500hp EM deck against plat? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36625.msg1002740#msg1002740
« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2012, 11:36:52 pm »
That would work, but sometimes the time quanta runs low after too many rewinds, and air is unused otherwise. If you're really that concerned with shaving a couple cards, I'd lose the sofo, mito, antimatter, and quints. Those are all in there just to have something to do, but alot of the time you're forced to discard or waste all of those if you don't have the right combo.

This is basically just a fun deck anyway. With 2 or 3 wins an hour, its unlikely the score/electrum gain will compete with the more traditional approach to plat grinding. I haven't really tested that over any decent time span though.

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Re: Is there a 500hp EM deck against plat? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36625.msg1003889#msg1003889
« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2012, 04:57:56 am »
You need 12 QT to supply the eternity each turn. +sofo, you need 15. With 18 QT, the RNG really needs to hate you to run out of  :time. But since this is fun deck do whatever. Maybe even put in mindgate; i like that card.
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Re: Is there a 500hp EM deck against plat? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36625.msg1067689#msg1067689
« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2013, 10:29:54 am »
Has anyone tried a deck like this with fractal and gemfinder to get earth quanta quicker?

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Re: Is there a 500hp EM deck against plat? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36625.msg1067709#msg1067709
« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2013, 12:59:34 pm »
Has anyone tried a deck like this with fractal and gemfinder to get earth quanta quicker?
I actually tried, but this decks tend to get your hand full of control cards, weapons, shields, etc so Fractal may not be the best option.
Even a simple fractal+gnomes isn't a good idea, because your Stone Skins (which you have 5-6) will clog your hand so the fractal will not be powerful. It also dies to fire stalls and ghostmares, seen every day in arena.
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Re: Is there a 500hp EM deck against plat? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36625.msg1067730#msg1067730
« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2013, 01:51:49 pm »
I've been trying a simple deck to get high HPs EMs that's totally unupped in Trainer.
It's really simple, but I'm still trying to balance the cards, as of now it is:
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Not really sure, though.
Haven't tried it yet in the arena since I'm playing it on the trainer, but I rarely look what opponent's doing, given that it is mainly based on what YOU draw, and not opponent's counters. If you can get it going (I'd say at least 6 Pillars, 6 Pendulums and EA'd Dissipation Shield, but it may vary in the number of pillars, they're what is mainly needed along the EA'd Shield), you usually are untouchable, and will keep playing pillars over pillars.
If you're lucky, you can get 100+73*6=538, so 500 HP at the end with EM. Against higher-ups in the arena, they could kill you before you can get your deck going (sometimes it requires 10+ turns, but an average would be 6/7). The real problem would be getting an Elemental Mastery, since you could receive some damages and your only HP Healer is Antimatter. For this exact reason, I was thinking of playing 4 of it, just like the EAs.
Relatively cheap (1600 and some), easy to play, but generates extremely long games.
If someone could test it for me in the Arena, Gold and Platinum preferably, I'd be grateful, thanks.

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Re: Is there a 500hp EM deck against plat? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36625.msg1067754#msg1067754
« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2013, 03:13:30 pm »
I've been trying a simple deck to get high HPs EMs that's totally unupped in Trainer.
It's really simple, but I'm still trying to balance the cards, as of now it is:
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Not really sure, though.
Haven't tried it yet in the arena since I'm playing it on the trainer, but I rarely look what opponent's doing, given that it is mainly based on what YOU draw, and not opponent's counters. If you can get it going (I'd say at least 6 Pillars, 6 Pendulums and EA'd Dissipation Shield, but it may vary in the number of pillars, they're what is mainly needed along the EA'd Shield), you usually are untouchable, and will keep playing pillars over pillars.
If you're lucky, you can get 100+73*6=538, so 500 HP at the end with EM. Against higher-ups in the arena, they could kill you before you can get your deck going (sometimes it requires 10+ turns, but an average would be 6/7). The real problem would be getting an Elemental Mastery, since you could receive some damages and your only HP Healer is Antimatter. For this exact reason, I was thinking of playing 4 of it, just like the EAs.
Relatively cheap (1600 and some), easy to play, but generates extremely long games.
If someone could test it for me in the Arena, Gold and Platinum preferably, I'd be grateful, thanks.

If you're having EM troubles, you could toss in a luciferin or a holy light. Also, note that if stoneskin boosts your hp past 500, it will set your hp to 500, so if you're at 490/495 hp and stone skin with a million quanta, you'll end at 500/500 and EM. Reserving one of those for the deckout turn could get you more EMs, and personally, I see little reason to play this kind of stall if you're not getting EMs.

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Re: Is there a 500hp EM deck against plat? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36625.msg1067794#msg1067794
« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2013, 05:38:19 pm »
Not sure I understood your entire reasoning.
While Luciferin is generic and could be played, Holy Light (if unupped) isn't.
About the HP cap, yes, I know, I said so in my post, too.
As for the EM, that's why I said that I would like to put AM at 4, because that'd make EMs easier. The reasons you wouldn't be getting EMs are mainly Poisons or creatureless decks, but the former one is already an auto-quit, it wouldn't change much. What's more, I don't know if it would be difficult to get EMs in Platinum for two reasons:
1.I don't play in platinum, still not at that point of the game, and thus don't know the metagame there;
2.I haven't tried this yet on my account, all I'm saying is based on AI4 tests, that's why I asked for help here in both testing and fixing.

 

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