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my new deck. pls rip it apart :) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13286.msg167323#msg167323
« on: September 29, 2010, 03:30:59 pm »
i call it evolution, and so far i'm really enjoying it, i made it after asking kong what cards they never saw used. they said d-fly
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ok i had some complaints about phoenix rush, and found the non fire q cards hard to fuel, so slightly modded v2
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and guys, try it before you diss it, i'm 9 for 10 vs ai3's

hoestly guys this deck has no true omg its gotta be the new uber deck purpose... i made it purely based on the fact that someone on kong said they never saw d-flies, and the idea of flying bows got my eye. so i scrambeled some things together and out popped this... i LOVE when someone gives me a challenge like that. anyone have an idea for my next work?

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Re: my new deck. pls rip it apart :) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13286.msg167325#msg167325
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2010, 03:39:44 pm »
u know how does that deck seriously work coz it doesn't look that good?

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Re: my new deck. pls rip it apart :) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13286.msg167326#msg167326
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2010, 03:40:30 pm »
muligan makes it so theirs either a immo or a nova in hand.. easy to get a d fly and make a bird plus flying bow round 1

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Re: my new deck. pls rip it apart :) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13286.msg167339#msg167339
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2010, 04:14:10 pm »
So, you're basically using Dragonflies as Air costing Photons?
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Re: my new deck. pls rip it apart :) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13286.msg167342#msg167342
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2010, 04:36:37 pm »
air q' go towards the flying weps too so its not a huge deal, plus air mark is for bows. my best hand so far was nova, d-fly, immo, phoen, bow bow and ani.  got 2 bows and a phoen out turn 1, 15 dmg

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Re: my new deck. pls rip it apart :) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13286.msg167343#msg167343
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2010, 04:40:38 pm »
4 immos and 5 phoenixes? I would've expected it the other way around :P
though I have to agree the mulligan makes it more likely to get an immo in starting hand, than a phoenix (if the amounts were equal)

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Re: my new deck. pls rip it apart :) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13286.msg167364#msg167364
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2010, 05:28:42 pm »
There's nothing wrong with dragonflies, even though many would be against it. it lets you get auto-mulligan if you only have those, but no immos in your hand. I often use ash eaters instead of photons in my destroyer rushes, for the same reason.

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Re: my new deck. pls rip it apart :) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13286.msg167471#msg167471
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2010, 08:25:48 pm »
There's nothing wrong with dragonflies, even though many would be against it. it lets you get auto-mulligan if you only have those, but no immos in your hand. I often use ash eaters instead of photons in my destroyer rushes, for the same reason.
sorry nope.
automulligan only works for 0-cost-cards like pillars/pendulums, sparks, photon, nova or luciferine (& holy flash < upped).
dragonflies cost 1 :air -> no automulligan here.

its nothing wrong with that deck. just other decks do the same, but slightly better (faster).

on the first sight:

more novas wont hurt this deck (i recommend 3-4)
skipp the skull shield -- -1 dmg is just.... nothing
you dont need cc if you go for ai3 -- skip rof & chaos seed

now you could add some buffs (adrenaline, blessing, monumentum <- pick what you like)
or more creatures - graboid, fire spirit, mindflayer e.g.

yep -- vamp dagger is mutch better then steal

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Re: my new deck. pls rip it apart :) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13286.msg167474#msg167474
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2010, 08:31:22 pm »
There's nothing wrong with dragonflies, even though many would be against it. it lets you get auto-mulligan if you only have those, but no immos in your hand. I often use ash eaters instead of photons in my destroyer rushes, for the same reason.
sorry nope.
automulligan only works for 0-cost-cards like pillars/pendulums, sparks, photon, nova or luciferine (& holy flash < upped).
dragonflies cost 1 :air -> no automulligan here.

I'm pretty sure I'm right. If you have no immolation, but do have a dragonfly you redraw.
Unless I've misunderstood how the mulligan works?

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Re: my new deck. pls rip it apart :) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13286.msg167485#msg167485
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2010, 08:49:59 pm »
im pretty sure you are wrong.
Elements 1.21

Auto-mulligan function:

Q - How does it work?
A - If none of the cards in your initial hand can be played during the first turn (none has cost 0) you'll automatically get 7 new cards. Only once.

Q - Am I going to realize a "mulligan" happened?
A - No.

Q - Why can't I decide myself if I want a mulligan?
A1 - People would use it to drastically improve the chances of getting the desired card X in the initial hand.
A2 - It would force me to add an extra turn in pvp games before the game actually starts: more waiting, more questions, more clicking.
A3 - I still want bad/good initial hands in the game. What I do not want is having 8 cards in your hand and having to discard one during your first turn - just too frustrating.

Q - I think it should count the number of pillars instead of the number of cost 0 cards
A - There are pillar-less decks

Q - I strongly prefer the system where I can have a mulligan, but if I get one I'll get less cards and it can be repeated up to 3 times, unless it is a first Monday of the month in which case I can get 2/3 of the cards that my opponent had yesterday.
A - Simple = Better

Q - I played a game where I still could not play any card during my first turn
A - You might still draw 14 cards and no pillars - did you try adding pillars to your deck?

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Re: my new deck. pls rip it apart :) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13286.msg167507#msg167507
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2010, 09:12:14 pm »
I was right. I probably just did a bad job of writing it down. Maybe I can explain better with an example.
5 dragonflies, 1 vampire dagger, 1 phoenix (example) gets you the mulligan.
5 photons, 1 vampire dagger, 1 phoenix does not.

Right?

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Re: my new deck. pls rip it apart :) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13286.msg167520#msg167520
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2010, 09:44:58 pm »
ok, i got you now.
you mean you want to get a immolation more likely with the automulligan.
but searching for the mulligan is not a good thing. that means your deck isnt able to pull of atleast one 0 cost card on your first draw.
that means on a bad draw you might not get a playable card on your 1 turn (even after automulligan).

and thats btw the reason why ppl usually use photons/sparks as cremation food -- you can play them on turn 1 and mostly immolate them on turn 1.

the dragonflies just cost you a turn.

 

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