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Please help me improve my Spirit Rush Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17502.msg223151#msg223151
« on: December 12, 2010, 08:19:11 pm »
Sorry, I accidentally submitted the other topic, I was not done with it and couldn't find an edit button nor could I delete it.

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DESCRIPTION:
Score: 304, Wins: 47, Lost: 4
Deck works well against AI 0-2. because they don't activate creature abilities that much and doesn't actively seek to destroy my creatures.

STRATEGY
First turn, Pillars.
Second Turn, Forest Spirit
Third Turn, Adrenaline.
Repeat and grow

Use Thorn Carapace and Empathic bonds if enemy put high creatures on the field.

STRENGHTS
- Fast farming for low level AI.
- Simple to play

WEAKNESSES
- Big problem if you haven't played Forest Spirit at at least the third turn
- Bolts get rid of creatures that haven't had the chance to outgrow them
- Mutation or psionic wave get rid of creatures ability to grow.
- Reverse time is big trouble.
- Never ended the match with full HP
- Gravity and Dimensional shield

IMPROVEMENTS & QUESTIONS

- I want to know how i can improve this deck without losing its speed and simplicity.
- I want to know if this deck can beat AI3, or if not how it can be improved to beat it.
- I want advice on which rare weapon would be best with this deck.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Please help me improve my Spirit Rush Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17502.msg223268#msg223268
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2010, 11:44:17 pm »
Sorry, I accidentally submitted the other topic, I was not done with it and couldn't find an edit button nor could I delete it.
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np, the edit button is on the top right of the post:

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IMPROVEMENTS & QUESTIONS

- I want to know how i can improve this deck without losing its speed and simplicity.
- I want to know if this deck can beat AI3, or if not how it can be improved to beat it.
- I want advice on which rare weapon would be best with this deck.

Thanks in advance.
lets see:
if you wanna fight ai3:
take out the shields. ai3 dont need much defense. you can out-dmg ai3 pretty easy;).
speed is asked vs. ai3.

with the open slots you have, you could put in:
-  more creatures -> frogs or cockatrice fit in here. take 4 of them (and replace the bonds aswell). this should inrease your win% vs. ai3. you should replace the water pillars with life pendulums then.

-  nymph tears ->a water spell, used on the life pillars you will get life nymphs (nice attacker if adrenalined, and a cheap multi-adrenaline-machine).
for this build i recommend:
8 life pillars,
6 life pendulums,
6 spirits,
6 nymph tears,
4 water pillar. (or +2 bonds - 2 nymph tears)

druidic staff would be #1 choise as rare weapon for this deck.


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Re: Please help me improve my Spirit Rush Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17502.msg223289#msg223289
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2010, 12:20:11 am »
Wow thanks for the suggestions and thanks for helping me find the Modify button. I must be blind or something :)

I have tried with a combination with nymph tears but with growing my Forest spirits i hardly have enough water left to play them unless I add more water pillars.


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Re: Please help me improve my Spirit Rush Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17502.msg223316#msg223316
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2010, 12:51:41 am »
Drop the nymph's tear and go straight for the rush then - Get yourself freeze, that costs incredibly low and is a pretty nice CC.

As hrmm said, taking out shields and bonds for frogs and cockatrice is first thing first.

Secondly, you can afford to get rid of a few pillars - 6-8 should do well. After that, you can add anything lifey in there, including more life pendulums to power the water for the nymph. If you get a nice build to power the nymph tear and the nymph itself, you can drop adrenaline all together.

I'd like to note here, that cockatrice and Horned Frog (especially the latter) is the best critter for adrenaline in this deck.

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Re: Please help me improve my Spirit Rush Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17502.msg223368#msg223368
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2010, 01:38:21 am »
Thanks for the advice and insights.

I hadn't thought about adding freeze, i think that is a nice option. but what I dont understand is why I should take out shield? can someone clarify that for me please?

I had added the emerald shield to prevent low level bolting while my forest spirits are still lower then 5/5, and the other shield was for getting rid of opponents creatures, plus one extra in case the first is destroyed.

What I also do not quite understand is the benefit of adding life pendulum to power water, (which is my mark) over adding an extra water pillar? I mean a pendulum gives one of the pendulums element the first turn and one of your mark the next turn, while a water pillar gives 1 water per turn. can someone clarify that for me also?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Please help me improve my Spirit Rush Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17502.msg223547#msg223547
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2010, 06:43:08 am »
adding a pendulum allows you to increase the amount of both elements quanta production while only using one card.
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Re: Please help me improve my Spirit Rush Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17502.msg223551#msg223551
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2010, 06:49:14 am »
Thanks, I hadn't thought about it.

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Re: Please help me improve my Spirit Rush Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17502.msg223595#msg223595
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2010, 09:46:36 am »
Thanks for the advice and insights.

I hadn't thought about adding freeze, i think that is a nice option. but what I dont understand is why I should take out shield? can someone clarify that for me please?

I had added the emerald shield to prevent low level bolting while my forest spirits are still lower then 5/5, and the other shield was for getting rid of opponents creatures, plus one extra in case the first is destroyed.

What I also do not quite understand is the benefit of adding life pendulum to power water, (which is my mark) over adding an extra water pillar? I mean a pendulum gives one of the pendulums element the first turn and one of your mark the next turn, while a water pillar gives 1 water per turn. can someone clarify that for me also?

Thanks in advance.
Shield is rather un needed for AI3  as AI3 has no bolt and no speed. With this deck without shields and with cockatrices and horned frogs in front of it, you can bend and roll over all the AI3 decks ATM.

 

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