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Newb Deck Help? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6525.msg68393#msg68393
« on: May 13, 2010, 11:42:39 pm »
Hey so I'm kind of a newb but I did look through the forums a bit to get advice although sometimes I'm receiving mixed messages... anyways, I've been grinding AI3 with this deck:

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Then I bought this deck to try to beat false gods but then i realized that I needed to upgrade some of these cards in order for it to be effective

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can you give me advice on if my grinding deck is good or if I should make any changes to make it more efficient? also, is there an intermediate deck that I could fairly easily transition to that i could grind top 50 or AI5 before false-gods?  also, when i do reach $1500, which card should i upgrade first?

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Re: Newb Deck Help? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6525.msg68394#msg68394
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2010, 11:48:03 pm »
for your first deck it looks like your going for shreker rush, i would recomend
14 earth pillars
6 gaibs
6 earthquakes
4 reveres times


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Re: Newb Deck Help? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6525.msg68395#msg68395
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2010, 11:50:56 pm »
Right now... keep your current Graboid/Shrieker deck, but make it more efficient.

You can do this by removing all the Time cards (7 Factories, 2 Hourglasses, 1 Eternity) and adding 3 Stone Pillars and a Short Sword.

Continue using this deck until you get more than 3000 electrum. Then, switch over to your rainbow deck and upgrade both Otyughs. Now, practice using this deck against AI3's; now, use it against Gods. Sell any cards you win if you can't use them in your deck. Upgrading order:

2 X Otyugh
4 X Golden Hourglass
1/2 the pillars
1 X Lobotomizer
1 X Fallen Elf
Everything else EXCEPT Sundials
1/2 the pillars

Hope this helps.

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Re: Newb Deck Help? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6525.msg68399#msg68399
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2010, 11:59:54 pm »
thanks for the help so far... i began selling some of the card i collected and came across two Arctic Squids... I can sell them for like 259 but when i tried to sell them i got this huge "RARE CARD" warning...they dont seem particularly useful to me but i see you can't buy them in the bazaar...should i sell them or no?

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Re: Newb Deck Help? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6525.msg68401#msg68401
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2010, 12:01:41 am »
no and use my version of shrekier rush, terroking *master of earth* suggested it and it works wonders.... icys is OK but mine is better :P

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Re: Newb Deck Help? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6525.msg68402#msg68402
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2010, 12:03:08 am »
I recommend not selling them. It's hard to find them later on. However, if you really want to, go right ahead; winning them isn't a HUGE pain.

no and use my version of shrekier rush, terroking *master of earth* suggested it and it works wonders.... icys is OK but mine is better :P
But mine is faster overall. Yours is control-oriented. Every Reverse Time and Earthquake card helps you survive, but does not help you kill the opponent. My deck will definitely win faster and yours will have a slightly higher win rate. Mine nets a lot more electrum over time, though.

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Re: Newb Deck Help? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6525.msg68403#msg68403
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2010, 12:05:11 am »
Right now... keep your current Graboid/Shrieker deck, but make it more efficient.

You can do this by removing all the Time cards (7 Factories, 2 Hourglasses, 1 Eternity) and adding 3 Stone Pillars and a Short Sword.

Continue using this deck until you get more than 3000 electrum. Then, switch over to your rainbow deck and upgrade both Otyughs. Now, practice using this deck against AI3's; now, use it against Gods. Sell any cards you win if you can't use them in your deck. Upgrading order:

2 X Otyugh
4 X Golden Hourglass
1/2 the pillars
1 X Lobotomizer
1 X Fallen Elf
Everything else EXCEPT Sundials
1/2 the pillars

Hope this helps.
Icy your suggesting a 3 lev farmer
for your first deck it looks like your going for shreker rush, i would recomend
14 earth pillars
6 gaibs
6 earthquakes
4 reveres times


kills on the other hand is suggesting a PVP shreiker rush that is effective on lev 3 as well.

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Re: Newb Deck Help? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6525.msg68404#msg68404
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2010, 12:06:12 am »
Go with Icy's :P

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Re: Newb Deck Help? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6525.msg68406#msg68406
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2010, 12:06:47 am »
Right now... keep your current Graboid/Shrieker deck, but make it more efficient.

You can do this by removing all the Time cards (7 Factories, 2 Hourglasses, 1 Eternity) and adding 3 Stone Pillars and a Short Sword.

Continue using this deck until you get more than 3000 electrum. Then, switch over to your rainbow deck and upgrade both Otyughs. Now, practice using this deck against AI3's; now, use it against Gods. Sell any cards you win if you can't use them in your deck. Upgrading order:

2 X Otyugh
4 X Golden Hourglass
1/2 the pillars
1 X Lobotomizer
1 X Fallen Elf
Everything else EXCEPT Sundials
1/2 the pillars

Hope this helps.
Icy your suggesting a 3 lev farmer
for your first deck it looks like your going for shreker rush, i would recomend
14 earth pillars
6 gaibs
6 earthquakes
4 reveres times


kills on the other hand is suggesting a PVP shreiker rush that is effective on lev 3 as well.
Here's a quote from the OP.

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anyways, I've been grinding AI3 with this deck:
I'm suggesting a better AI3 deck. Killdazombies is a PvP deck which works for Lvl3, but is not as good as mine.

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Re: Newb Deck Help? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6525.msg68492#msg68492
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2010, 05:59:29 am »
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can you give me advice on if my grinding deck is good or if I should make any changes to make it more efficient? also, is there an intermediate deck that I could fairly easily transition to that i could grind top 50 or AI5 before false-gods?  also, when i do reach $1500, which card should i upgrade first?
I have few suggestions for this anti fg deck.

IF you have 2 eternities then, use both and:
-7 quantum pillars (mostly because you need space for other stuff, and... you don't like big decks?)
-1 hourglass (sundials => you don't really need 4 hourglasses)
+1 quintessence (you don't want wait this card too long)
+1 fog shield (amazing shield, low cost and effective)
+1 animate weapon
+3 time factory (=> for hourglasses/rewinding)

And if you have only one eternity:
-3 quantum pillars
-1 hourglass
+1 quintessence
+1 fog shield
+1 rain fo fire

With 6 sundials you have time to generate quantum, so less quantum pillars should be enough; if not and you need more quantum pillars, add 1 quintessence and fog - just try them few games :)

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Re: Newb Deck Help? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6525.msg68898#msg68898
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2010, 12:49:25 am »
Thanks for the help so far everyone... I've been using Icy's suggested deck for AI3 and found it really effective...then sometimes when I get bored I've used the deck that zombies suggested and doing top50, which takes a bit longer but has a fairly good success rate and a chance to win some rare cards...

so far my rare cards include:

Shard (green background)
Discord
Druidic Staff
Fahrenheit x2
Arctic Squid x2
Owl's Eye
Eternity
Lobotomizer


Currently I dont really use any of these although the eternity would be in the plans for the rainbow deck I posted and the Lobotomizer seems to be a popular weapon... but I was wondering, do you guys think i should keep all these or sell any of them?

thanks

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Re: Newb Deck Help? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6525.msg68927#msg68927
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2010, 02:00:48 am »
Keep them all, unless you already have 12 of each.
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