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Re: Brave Voodoo [Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39948.msg497420#msg497420
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2012, 12:18:19 am »
The bad thing there is that 2 SoBr in the same turn is a waste, also it's a pitty you can't play 2 SN in the same turn. Against FGs, maybe only 3 SoBr and 3 precogs is the best.
Although, Shak'ars style decks have been nerfed long ago when AI learned to mutate and RT BB+GP dolls. Now, with the SN nerf and the SoFo in some FGs that destroy your pilars it's even worse.
That speed problem isn't as bad as you say it is. And also, there are now only 3 FGs in which RT and/or mutation is a problem: Chaos Lord, Destiny, and Seism.

and Lionheart and Osiris.

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Re: Brave Voodoo [Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39948.msg497424#msg497424
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2012, 12:20:00 am »
The bad thing there is that 2 SoBr in the same turn is a waste, also it's a pitty you can't play 2 SN in the same turn. Against FGs, maybe only 3 SoBr and 3 precogs is the best.
Although, Shak'ars style decks have been nerfed long ago when AI learned to mutate and RT BB+GP dolls. Now, with the SN nerf and the SoFo in some FGs that destroy your pilars it's even worse.
That speed problem isn't as bad as you say it is. And also, there are now only 5 FGs in which RT and/or mutation is a problem: Chaos Lord, Destiny, Seism, Lionheart, and Osiris.
Corrected.
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Re: Brave Voodoo [Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39948.msg497432#msg497432
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2012, 12:58:44 am »
And FGs that destroy every single pilar as soon as you play it, that'a a lot/29
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Re: Brave Voodoo [Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39948.msg497438#msg497438
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2012, 01:16:35 am »
And FGs that destroy every single pilar as soon as you play it, that'a a lot/29
That's also not as big of a problem ask you make it to be. It doesn't take a lot of quanta to play those PU's compared to what the deck generates, even with the Pends removed.
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Re: Brave Voodoo [Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39948.msg497441#msg497441
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2012, 01:38:12 am »
I have been trying it in the trainer. I win less cards with the SoBrs then with precogs. The reason is that I can't use 2 SoBrs in the same turn, 2 SN either. I damn miss Shak'ars as a fun, effective deck
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Re: Brave Voodoo [Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39948.msg497477#msg497477
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2012, 03:23:04 am »
I have been trying it in the trainer. I win less cards with the SoBrs then with precogs. The reason is that I can't use 2 SoBrs in the same turn, 2 SN either. I damn miss Shak'ars as a fun, effective deck
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Re: Brave Voodoo [Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39948.msg497487#msg497487
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2012, 04:02:12 am »
I have been trying it in the trainer. I win less cards with the SoBrs then with precogs. The reason is that I can't use 2 SoBrs in the same turn, 2 SN either. I damn miss Shak'ars as a fun, effective deck
Let's get an outside tester to test both versions. Then we'll see who's right.
you might be right, I tested the deck in no more than 25 games totake that conclutions.
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Re: Brave Voodoo [Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39948.msg498073#msg498073
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2012, 06:04:07 am »
Should we jointly make a thread abount these decks?
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Re: Brave Voodoo [Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39948.msg498078#msg498078
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Re: Brave Voodoo [Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39948.msg498491#msg498491
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2012, 01:13:21 am »
The below post is a first draft for the thread:
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Brave Voodoo [Shakar's Revenge][SoBe][FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39948.msg498492#msg498492
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2012, 01:13:57 am »
Well, after several updates, Shakar's revenge finally got something that it can use to boost itself. This card is called Shard of Bravery, and is used in this deck to replace the slower Precognitions.

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The original, most consistent but also the slowest build by ralouf.

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Chapuz's build, it tries to strike a balance between speed and consistency.

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My build is designed to be as fast as possible, but that does not help consistency.

Strategy:
Speed draw with Shard of Bravery, but be careful not to use up SoBes uselessly or to accidentally summon singularities. When you manage to draw the combo of Voodoo doll + a few Basilisk Blood + Gravity Force, stick enough basilisk bloods to allow the doll to survive with the gravity force on its back. Don't stick them all on yet, as you may want to stop a creature or weapon for 6 turns. Now wait until you can use one or more twin universes to multiply the inflicted damage to 200 HP, then do so. There are some other tricks that can be used to stay alive, so I recommend you find an old doll-based FG killer thread and read on that.
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