New Newbie/Intermed tutorial planned ... could use some help on deck-stats

[ItzSean]

Little advice i might add.  Taking out one steal/black hole and adding +1 blessing/Fire Shield, it seems to work a bit better. Plus, the shield helps take down those pesky RoL/Frac./Hope decks. 

Results from 20 games :
( the deck is NOT fully upgraded so the stats may not be up to scale. Only things upgraded are Pulvy, the novas, and 5 pillars)
1: RoL/Hope/Frac. - Lost

2: (mark used, not main element used) rainbow - EM, 1 card

3: rainbow - won,  No cards

4: rainbow - won, 1 card

5: Duo & pharaohs - Lost, everything got reversed for the first 6 turns 

6: rainbow - Won, 1 card

7: Duo & - Won , No cards

8: Speed poison - Got Destroyed... Although 5 congeals within 2 turns tends to do that. 

9: rainbow - won - no cards

10: rainbow - EM - 1 card

11: rainbow - won, was kinda bumpy, got an early otyugh out - won a relic 

12: Life-gain deck - win - 1 card

13: Farm (mrblonde) - EM - Won Discord

14: rainbow - won - no cards

15: Farm (chaoz) - won - won Eternity and Owl's Eye

16: rainbow -  Lost - This time i wasn't so lucky vs. early otyugh.

17: rainbow - Lost - AI got lucky with mutate and made a 7/2 spark w/ deja vu(used) ~> 11/7 spark w/ destroy

18: rainbow rush - won w/ 1 hp nonetheless  - 1 card

19: RoL/Hope/Frac. - Lost

20: rainbow - won - no cards
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Final Breakdown:

First of all, i never really had any problem with RoF in any of my rainbow matches. I would either have creatures so buffed it didn't bother them or i had my "attackers" quinted, so what  creatures that were hit(and soon nom'd) didn't slow me down. Next, I have to say the same thing essence did. I seemed to use black hole more for quanta denial, not healing. Finally, I think they're on to something with the discord thing, then black hole would be more effective vs. mono/duo t50 decks when working towards that wonderful EM. I mean, you can beat them, ....but pulvy doesn't have much to do when the AI is rushing with no( in most cases ) permas. Maybe -1 Pillar + one Upg.Discord? That's just my thoughts.
                         
                           - Stats -
W/L : 13(3 EM)/7 (65%,83.3% on JUST rainbows)
Electrum earned : 423
Cards won : 10 (2 rares, 3 if you count the relic)
Time taken : Roughly 25 minutes.

rainbow 1(EM)/0
rainbow 2(1 EM)/0
rainbow 6/2
rainbow rush 1/0
Life Gain 1/0
RoL/Hope/Frac: 0/2
Duo & 0/1
Duo & 1/0
Speed Poison 0/1
Farms 2(1 EM)/0

Hope this helps Jangoo 

[Jangoo]

Thanks ItzSean, it sure does help.

It's only a shame you played with 5 upped QTs ... Strictly executed I couldn't use those stats to evaluate either of the two decks posted because now it's neither unupped nor upped. 

In order to get going here with the stats, I think I will still use them.  8)


Concerning fire-shield:

Have you actually tried this?
Steal is so widely used in T50 that I would picture it constantly getting stolen and killing off your critters. Especially when taking out 1 steal to afford the shield, winning those "steal-wars" seems to become a quite nasty task?

[ItzSean]

It's only a shame you played with 5 upped QTs ... Strictly executed I couldn't use those stats to evaluate either of the two decks posted because now it's neither unupped nor upped. 

In order to get going here with the stats, I think I will still use them.  8)

Awesome ^_^ And ooh.. Yea i guess i should have taken that into consideration.. My bad..

Concerning fire-shield:

Have you actually tried this?
Steal is so widely used in T50 that I would picture it constantly getting stolen and killing off your critters. Especially when taking out 1 steal to afford the shield, winning those "steal-wars" seems to become a quite nasty task?

Yes i have. On the RoL/Frac. deck i played against after the tests, it destroyed them. Also, maybe instead of taking out one steal for it, take out one pillar? 1/2 the time I only seem to be playing 2~4 towers anyway, and getting the job done very easily.  But like I said before, those were just my thoughts on how to improve the speed/survivablity of this deck vs t50.  Also since mono/duo decks are on the rise in the t50, I tested out the whole discord thing by taking out a pillar for it, and it helps a ton.. if you can get it early.. that is.. 

http://helltgivre.free.fr/elements/?mark=4sj&deck=4vh4vl4vmz255v590z25c15f55fa5if5lf5oj5rnz35up61rz56qqz66u377f This is how Im running the deck and it seems to have a very high t50 win ratio. I only seem to be losing 1/20-ish games. Good luck on your stats jangoo

[Clathius]

I too have become frustrated with FG farming so I stopped.   I played 20 games with the upgraded deck for you since I am always looking for good farming decks.  I have a few comments:

-I played the oty only twice and never used him.  IMO he could be removed.  Maybe replace with a Flesh Recluse  or a Werewolf  .
-I found this deck very slow.  You might as well autoquit vs non-rainbows.   I might even recommend replacing that Oty with another Tower.
-Even though the EMs often came from the Black Hole, often the assist came from a slow starting deck.  Nearly every non-EM was a fight to the death where I was using the black holes to not lose.   I am pretty shocked I never lost a game to a rainbow. 
-I often paused playing creatures at 3 and then waited until a growth or 2 so they would survive a RoF before playing more.
-I have decks that beat Top50 faster but with less EMs.  They can beat the mono rush decks as well.
-Fun deck to play.  I only intended collecting 10 for you but kept going because I was enjoying it.

Games:   20                  
Wins:   15   75%               
EM:           9   60%               
EM from BH:   6   40%               
Rainbows:   14   70%               

Mark           Deck         Win   EM   EM/BH   Cards Left   Cards   RoF
Time          Rainbow   1   1         0   
Time      Rainbow   1   1   1      0   Yes, no effect on outcome.
Entropy    Rainbow   1   1   1      0   
Entropy    Rainbow   1            0   
Entropy    Rainbow   1            2   Yes, no effect on outcome.
Darkness   Rainbow   1   1   1      0   
Darkness   Mono   0            0   
Darkness   Rainbow   1            1   
Farm    Farm           1   1      14   1   
Water   Mono   1            0   
Time           Rainbow   1   1      15   1   
Time      Rainbow   1   1   1   15   2   
Life      Mono   0            0   
Entropy    Rainbow   1         14   0   Yes, no effect on outcome.
Entropy    Rainbow   1   1   1   16   0   
Life           Mono   0            0   
Earth   Rush           0            0   
Aether   RoL/Frac   0            0   
Entropy    Rainbow   1   0   0   14   0   
Farm           Farm           1   1   1   15   1   
         

[Darer]

Here's Wednesday stats for you unupped version w/ no modifications:

1.Mono Very fast morning glories made me lose...
2.Farm (Titan only)
3. rainbow deck with lotsa deflag EM after stolen his SoG
4. rainbow deck played eternity after I used my Blackholes to deny his quinted oty (sadly no EM)
5.Farm (Wow! I got 3 titans)(same farm as 2)
6.Farm (Pharoh)
7.Mono  Odd no pests... No EM won with 3 HP
8.Farm (Titan and SoD)
9. Fractal RoL Hope got hope factal combo early
10. Fractal RoL hope I was just fast enough to get past his hope

Decks
Farms: 40%
RoL fractal: 20%
 : 10%
Rainbow: 20%
 :10%

games played: 10
won: 8 (5 EM) (unlucky could've got 6)
lost: 2
cards: 8 (got VEEERRRYYYY lucky)
rainbows: 2
non-rainbows: 8
~time/match: 1 min for farms, 3 min for everything else
RoF: None!
Win rate: 80%

Very lucky 10 matches? Or just the time when all the farm decks are up?
Edit: Playing this deck for a while more. This deck has some quantum issues.  is overused and anubis takes too long to play. I think the lycan is unnecesary, 3 steals is quite enough  without lycan butting in and using the quantum

[Boingo]

Sorry if this is a necropost, but this is a very good deck.  Since it's so heavy on I traded out a blackhole for upped antimatter.  It's still a little tight, but manageable.  Plus the antimatter usually undoes the inevitable antimatter your growth card gets hit with.  It still gets consistently outrushed by decks, but I've found it can deal with many cremation/destroyer decks with a decent opening hand and does best against other rainbows.  Anyway, excellent T50 grinder.