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Luciferased Horned Frogs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4387.msg43229#msg43229
« on: March 24, 2010, 01:39:24 pm »





I was just tinkering with the trainer and saw the hope card for the light element.
So I thought it might be an interesting build to combine with life's adrenaline and normal creatures. Since light has luciferase to add an effect.

What do you think? Viable enough?

Fire shield tends to obliterate the whole line up though ^_^""""

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Re: Luciferased Horned Frogs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4387.msg43304#msg43304
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2010, 06:46:37 pm »
You have the exactly same idea as me.
But this deck really don't need any pillar. Every Ray of Light is equivalent to two Emerald Pillars.
Mark of Life just to give the quanta to the fisrt Leaf Dragon and nothing more.
Also 2~3 Hopes and 2~3 Leaf Dragons is enough if you made a 30-card deck.

I was testing this with Improved Heals instead of Miracles since with Miracles alone you don't get EM. And a couple of dragons as some tough hitters.
I got some pretty good results, but the deck could be improved.

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Re: Luciferased Horned Frogs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4387.msg43312#msg43312
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2010, 07:13:26 pm »
I also tried something like this. Archangels are kinda nice, though they don't have much synergy with other cards.(exept their casting cost and doing damage)

Personally I think it shouldn't rely too much on getting leaf dragon. I like to think this sort of deck has potential.

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Re: Luciferased Horned Frogs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4387.msg43604#msg43604
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2010, 10:55:58 am »
You have the exactly same idea as me.
But this deck really don't need any pillar. Every Ray of Light is equivalent to two Emerald Pillars.
Mark of Life just to give the quanta to the fisrt Leaf Dragon and nothing more.
Also 2~3 Hopes and 2~3 Leaf Dragons is enough if you made a 30-card deck.

I was testing this with Improved Heals instead of Miracles since with Miracles alone you don't get EM. And a couple of dragons as some tough hitters.
I got some pretty good results, but the deck could be improved.
I actually have tried using without any emerald pillars. 50% of the time I got little chance to maintain the leaf dragons long enough to use em to no chance in drawing them. Even with epinephrine it's way too slow. So the emerald pillars helped a lot. :)

I got rid of heal and opted for miracles instead, because I'm also trying out feral bond and some shards in.

Hmm... I did consider the golden dragons but I opted to use horned frogs instead because they are cheaper to cast and because I can spam epinephrine on them aswell :D

Frog + Luciferase + epinephrine = 12 DMG + 4 Light Quanta. :D which is greater than what golden dragon can achieve with the same combo :D

I also tried something like this. Archangels are kinda nice, though they don't have much synergy with other cards.(exept their casting cost and doing damage)

Personally I think it shouldn't rely too much on getting leaf dragon. I like to think this sort of deck has potential.
I agree. leaf dragons tends to get bounced or killed or frozen etc... so the emerald pillars helps for a backup plan. ^_^
I did try archangels but they are a bit slow ^_^"""

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Re: Luciferased Horned Frogs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4387.msg43638#msg43638
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2010, 02:28:29 pm »
The Dragons that I used were the Life one. Forgot the name o.o...
They are just to make some damage if the opponent has shields or Poison/Fire Shield. Most of the time I use Adrenalined Frogs to do damage.
With 3~4 Leaf Dragons you can get at least one in time to play the life things in your hand. I tested with 2 and I get one soon enough several times.

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Re: Luciferased Horned Frogs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4387.msg43937#msg43937
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2010, 12:49:40 pm »
The Dragons that I used were the Life one. Forgot the name o.o...
They are just to make some damage if the opponent has shields or Poison/Fire Shield. Most of the time I use Adrenalined Frogs to do damage.
With 3~4 Leaf Dragons you can get at least one in time to play the life things in your hand. I tested with 2 and I get one soon enough several times.
hmmm you're right, poison and fire shields tend to shut me down ^_^"

I'll give it a go.

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Life/Light deck -->Hope with luciferin for frogs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4387.msg46548#msg46548
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2010, 11:18:17 am »
Hi, I just made this up:
(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/de/view/m7Gbd56419/trainer_2)

It works actually pretty good, the cards that are simply destroying this deck are rarely used or used in a wrong way by the AI, the problem against FGs is the fact, that you just dont have enough punch. I tried to abuse the automulligan function by using only two or three RoL, but then you get trouble with your quanta...
Do you guys have any suggestions to make this ready against false gods?

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Re: Luciferased Horned Frogs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4387.msg46776#msg46776
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2010, 06:34:51 pm »
the problem is, that you dont have permanent-removal and are slower then mono-green rush you cant deal with an early fireshield (monogreen maybe can outdmg it, but photons are bad then), also major problems with each -2 dmg shields (diamond shield = no dmg potential), maybe adding (instead of a hope) a morning glory can help you, or 1-2dragons maybe.
maybe also mono white with airmark with pegasus + blessings + white dragons (woull have enough white quanta for them due to photons), and a hope with 3 creature is enough in my opinion. then you are nearly as fast as with adrenaline and can cope with walls, rain of fires and other mass destruction, also with otys.

but thats just an idea :)

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Re: Luciferased Horned Frogs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4387.msg47211#msg47211
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2010, 02:27:06 pm »
actually, i tired to make it work against false gods, and with this one here, i bet 3 of three mono life rush decks in the top 50s due to the shield. and this hope shield is top against the false god... if your creatures survive ;D you are right, the real problem is the fact, that you barely do damage against most shields. another one is, that you really don't need most of the card, but you need them instantly. after one hope and one rustler, you can throw the other ones away (although saving a rustler is not a bad option). this kind of kills this deck... too bad

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Re: Luciferased Horned Frogs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4387.msg47266#msg47266
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2010, 04:25:49 pm »
giant frogs? epinephrine wouldnt be as effective with that >.>"

I would rather use horned frogs more.

I also tried using 4 dragons. it works nicely actually. and easily runs over most shields.

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Re: Luciferased Horned Frogs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4387.msg47272#msg47272
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2010, 05:00:20 pm »
If you use the deck against Elders Horned/Giant Frogs don't matter this much. The Adrenalined Horned Frogs will do more damage after the third turn. This usually don't make any difference, sometimes is even better with the upgrade.

 

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