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TehColin

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Life/Light Toad attack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13767.msg173730#msg173730
« on: October 10, 2010, 12:38:59 am »
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Just looking for some feedback.  I am sure that this deck has been done to death, but I like it regardless.

I intend to use this deck for pvp 1 (sorry no upgrades)

Toads-main attacking creature.
Adrenaline - 3/3 toad becomes (3x4)/3 toad
rustlers - 1  :light = 2  :life  ;)
Holy light/heal = good for defense and EM

CHANGES-
-1 HL
-1heal
+1 Emerald Pillar
+1 Rustler
(mulligan has been letting me down recently)

Wynden

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Re: Life/Light Toad attack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13767.msg174829#msg174829
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2010, 01:56:58 am »
The most simple suggestion is to make it less prone to getting locked.
Without Rustlers, your deck is incredibly slow. Find ways to generate quanta so this is avoided.

For this type of deck, you need more speed, less healing.

+Pendulums
+Luci
+Cockatrices
+Blessings
-Heals
-Pillars

TehColin

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Re: Life/Light Toad attack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13767.msg175331#msg175331
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2010, 01:25:37 am »
The most simple suggestion is to make it less prone to getting locked.
Without Rustlers, your deck is incredibly slow. Find ways to generate quanta so this is avoided.

For this type of deck, you need more speed, less healing.

+Pendulums
+Luci
+Cockatrices
+Blessings
-Heals
-Pillars
Thanks for the suggestion!!

I have been trying to find ways to generate more quanta, after 2 straight games with mulligan leaving me pillar-less, I changed my deck to -1 heal, -1 holy light, +2 emerald pillars (or +1 emerald pillar +1 rustler, not sure which works better yet.)

I am not a fan of the cockatrice and the blessings because they don't work very well with adrenaline. An early build of the deck did have lumi.  Adrenalined frogs give 4 light per turn! But I couldn't figure out the light cards to go with it.  Maybe golden dragons?

Would
mark light -> life
-5 HL
-3 Heal
+ ? Luci
+ (8-?) golden drag

or something like this be effective?  Hmmm... gotta think about it.  Thanks for the comment though!!!

Kurohami

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Re: Life/Light Toad attack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13767.msg175337#msg175337
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2010, 01:36:08 am »
Not enough damage, add luciferine and emerald dragons may be good.

TehColin

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Re: Life/Light Toad attack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13767.msg175365#msg175365
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2010, 02:29:58 am »
Not enough damage, add luciferine and emerald dragons may be good.
Thanks for the comment!

1. I had thought golden dragons, but emeralds probably work better (2 less quanta). I will try it out later.

2. adrenalined frogs end up doing 12 damage for only 6 quanta and 2 cards.  They aren't THAT bad. :P EDIT: Actually any shield just kills my poor toadies damage per turn.  Hopefully dragons will help that.

Kurohami

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Re: Life/Light Toad attack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13767.msg175377#msg175377
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2010, 02:46:16 am »
Emerald dragon works much better than golden because you rustler turns light quanta generated by your mark and luciferined creatures into 2 times life quanta and since you have life pillars anyway you can still play the emerald dragon even without luciferine's help. Adrenalined frog is great but they are quite vulnerable too creature control and a damage reduction shield would hurt your damage really bad. A rain of fire or plague or 3 thunderstorm would wipe the board if you don't have dragons. Gl1tch made a deck operating on similar concepts but it's quite a bit more efficient than yours you might want to take a look at it. It's in duo/trio deck section called "All hail Gl1tch" something like that.

TehColin

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Re: Life/Light Toad attack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13767.msg175388#msg175388
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2010, 03:07:39 am »

Kurohami

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Re: Life/Light Toad attack https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13767.msg175400#msg175400
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2010, 03:39:52 am »
Well, ya that one's similar too, but I was kind of referring to this one.
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6653.msg77363#msg77363 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6653.msg77363#msg77363)

Your deck focuses on healing, but Gl1tch's basic rush deck is more about speed. The one I linked to have a great balance between offence, defence and healing. Your deck probably EMs more often, but the deck in my link is likely faster and more versatile against tougher opponents. Your deck is pretty good really, but if I were to make a variation of it I would take only 4 adrenaline since you can only use it well if you draw a frog, I would add 4 dragons or so for better durability against CC, switch mark to life and change pillars to light and take 1 more rustler. Get rid of the holy lights.
So, -1 adrenaline, +4 dragons, -6 emerald pillars, + 6 light pillars, +1 rustler, -4 holy light, +2 or 3 luciferine. That may seem like a lot of changes and it makes your deck a bit larger but being able to EM with the heals makes up for that. If you are going to use rustler the use it to its full potential, right?

 

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