Is there a 500hp EM deck against plat?

[zhangvict]

I was wondering is anyone made a good 500 hp EM deck, wanna try just for fun. I'm thinking about stuff like SoD, Stone Skin and Miracle type thingies.

[dragonsdemesne]

I did this when arena first came out.  It's quite profitable in terms of score, since each win is giving you like 1k electrum.  However, the win rate is low, so you almost never get special spins.  If you're okay with that, go ahead and build one.

This is the one I had in my deck file, but it's probably out of date, as I haven't used it in months.  I know I haven't used it since the new shards came in, possibly longer.  Unupped stoneskins were a money issue at the time; unupped virus was deliberate, for eternity rewind (didn't use photon or other 0 cost due to mulligan)

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[zhangvict]

I did this when arena first came out.  It's quite profitable in terms of score, since each win is giving you like 1k electrum.  However, the win rate is low, so you almost never get special spins.  If you're okay with that, go ahead and build one.

This is the one I had in my deck file, but it's probably out of date, as I haven't used it in months.  I know I haven't used it since the new shards came in, possibly longer.  Unupped stoneskins were a money issue at the time; unupped virus was deliberate, for eternity rewind (didn't use photon or other 0 cost due to mulligan)

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Thanks for your suggestion, I will experiment with adding some SoD's. I was thinking, wouldn't it be easier to use less cards since you already have 2 eternities in it? And good idea witht he mind gate - never thought of that to use up random quanta.

What I was thinking was more of a  duo, something like this random untested deck:

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[dragonsdemesne]

You probably could make it smaller without much difficulty.  The mindgates were there more for fun and as an alternate win condition in case something bad happened, like the AI had a protected eternity.  For certain FG predictions I'll use an earth/light 500hp EM deck, when I know it's an FG that can't beat it easily.  (I think you get 320 electrum for a 500hp EM FG win)

And yeah, I remember thinking about making the deck SoV-based, but the version I posted was from before SoV existed and when SoG healed 5hp regardless of mark.     You could give that a try; it might work, but I've never played with it.  You'd still need something like Titan to get that last point of damage in.  That's probably the most reliable way, since if the AI spams purify, deadly poison won't kill it, and any other kill condition can be blocked by either sundial (chargers and other creatures), dimshield (every other weapon/creature) or reflective shield. (bolts/lances)

[zombie0]

this works ok. 

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totally ripped off from http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,36553.0.html

sundials are optional.  sometimes helpful while pooling quantum.  other times gets blown up, costs precious and waste of card draw.  the poison shield helps keep opponent turns shorter unless they are mindgate spamming.

have fun and mold it how you like

[kimham8a]

Does anyone know how much electrum would be received when this deck wins in platinum?

[AnimationX]

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[TheonlyrealBeef]

Does anyone know how much electrum would be received when this deck wins in platinum?

Just tried out one of my own variants, assuming you EM with a full 500HP you can get around 750 score and 1500 electrum. Of course, the reward varies together with the platinum reward and you can get much, much more for beating top decks.

1 card left, plat deck will soon draw 2 cards and...
jackpot!

[kurathedog]

I've been wondering... How good are Aflas?
Pro: Guarenteed lockdown
Con: Gives eternity fodder, bad with no shield, bad against rushes, slows AI to drawing one per turn (So longer games).

Edit: Been using it with flooding+afla. Won all the games, but they took ages. One game I had to beat down a protected eternity with my own via damage. Added a mindgate after it.


Also, how do people use stone skins? From the games I have played, I hold them until 75 quanta, which gives me lots of excess heath. Swapped to 5 SoDs and 4 stone skins, because I hog the skins.

[Thecippis]

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this is going quite well, you don't win too much games, but when you do it is 1.4k E per win...

[memimemi]

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This has been working pretty well for me.

Notes:

i) DON'T upgrade the Thorn Carapices - we want to kill off gemfinders!
ii) try to save a purify for the endgame.  remember that you're healing, at that point, 30-50 hp/turn - you can usually wait until you have ridiculous numbers of poison counters.
iii) against any PC, save PA for Eternity, Thorn Carapice, and SoG, in that order.
iv) there are 6 GSes in the deck; don't be afraid to use one or two early in order to survive.  4 GS @ 74hp = 296 hp.  Even using 2 early, you can amass a decent hp limit vs rushes.
v) goes without saying, but the Dragonfly should be held in your hand until you're out of cards.  DON'T upgrade it; we want to avoid pillarless opening hands.

Possible swaps:

-1 Electrocutor +1 Pulverizer OR Titan OR Discord (depends on your tastes, I suppose- I just find Electrocutor more useful)

Hope that helps.

[Kai]

just hope eternity is not the last card