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interesting rainbow deck ideas... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=817.msg7509#msg7509
« on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:06 pm »

nice the first deck looks just like my old deck I used before FG got implemented.  Aside from anubis ,firestorm and the SD its the same.( 4HG and a few Dim shields+ miracle.) I had. Works pretty good in pvp unless your OPP has a fast killing deck,  annoys the hell out of people whene you got the Dis shield up.You may whant to ad a pulv for one of the ET. The second one may work better with a weapon instead of one poisen?

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interesting rainbow deck ideas... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=817.msg7510#msg7510
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:06 pm »

well, i was thinking about dissipation field and decided that it would be kinda fun making a deck based around using a protected dissipation field as a defence. I haven't finalised the deck, but it's something like this:

mark of time

4x unupgraded ffq
17x quantum tower
3x dissipation field
2x elite otyugh
1x pulverizer
3x protect artifact
3x leaf dragon
4x feral bond
2x fire storm
2x animate weapon
1x eagle's eye (not needed, but adds some creature control)
2x electrum hourglass
2x elite anubis
2x eternity
6x sundial (upgraded)

the tactic is to get a protected dissipation field on the table, along with lots of fireflies (from the ffq's obviously), and a leaf dragon. This lets you generate lots of quantums to fuel the shield, any the fireflies can also deal plenty of damage in large numbers. The otys are for creature control, along with the eagle's eye and the anubis is to make your creatures invincible, letting you get yourself set up. I've tried this deck in the trainer (which means with the sundial bug) against false gods, and got a pretty good win rate, although i only really played the easy gods. Any advice would be helpful



My other deck idea is a rainbow (or pillarless rainbow) quantum denial deck. I haven't tried this one out much, but the general idea is that you play supernovas. Once you play one supernova, you can play a devourer (or steal), a quicksand, 2 explosions and a few cheap creatures (so far i'm thinking giant frogs, werewolves, either flesh recluses or poison). This will be a fast quantum denial deck hopefully, but i'm still in the process of making it. Help would be greatly appreciated with this one because it sounds like fun to me =D

OK, so now i've done a bit of testing with the pillarless denial deck and here's what i've come up with:

mark of entropy
2x werewolf
6x supernova
1x deadly poison (optional)
3x quicksand
2x giant frog
2x explosion
2x physalia (1 unused quantum for 2 damage and the ability to use poison which is another unused quantum, if you don't use the deadly poison)
3x rewind
6x pest
1x improved steal
2x thunderbolt

so far i've enjoyed it =D

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interesting rainbow deck ideas... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=817.msg7782#msg7782
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:07 pm »

For the quantum denial deck, maybe take mark of Darkness. That way, you will be able to get a Pest out early even when you don't have a Supernova in hand. Maybe add one Black Dragon to take advantage of a Darkness quanta buildup. Blessings sound good for using the Light quanta.

Cisco

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interesting rainbow deck ideas... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=817.msg7783#msg7783
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:07 pm »

well for more damage a FFQ is great and boneyards combined with druids is devastating

midg3333

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interesting rainbow deck ideas... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=817.msg7784#msg7784
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:07 pm »

About the second deck:
- i end up discarding the poison most of the time anyway because physalia work just fine for using death quantums anyway, so poison probably should be replaced
- the deck probably needs a bit more damage. Any suggestions? All i can think of would be adding a blessing or 2, because it adds 3 damage and light isn't used at all

Forfeit

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interesting rainbow deck ideas... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=817.msg8050#msg8050
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:08 pm »

For the quantum denial deck, maybe take mark of Darkness. That way, you will be able to get a Pest out early even when you don't have a Supernova in hand. Maybe add one Black Dragon to take advantage of a Darkness quanta buildup. Blessings sound good for using the Light quanta.
How would you ever pay for Supernova? :S
This proves why some things only look good in writing. Maybe add a few normal novas?

midg3333

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interesting rainbow deck ideas... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=817.msg8051#msg8051
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:08 pm »

For the quantum denial deck, maybe take mark of Darkness. That way, you will be able to get a Pest out early even when you don't have a Supernova in hand. Maybe add one Black Dragon to take advantage of a Darkness quanta buildup. Blessings sound good for using the Light quanta.
when you have 6 novas, you almost always get one before you have 2 entropy quantums. On turn 1, you have 7 or 8 cards (depending on who goes first). by turn 2 you have seen a total of 8 or 9 cards, and have 1 entropy quantum. By turn 2 you have drawn 9 or 10 cards, a third of your deck,  and if you haven't drawn a nova by then, you are very unlucky.

mathematically, the chances of not drawing a supernova by turn 3 are:
24/30 * 23/29 * 22/28 * 21/27 * 20/26 * 19/25 * 18/24 * 17/23 *16/22 (* 15/21 if you went second). That comes out as about 9%... I admit that those odds aren't really the best, but it's a fun deck to play, so it doesn't really matter.

midg3333

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interesting rainbow deck ideas... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=817.msg8052#msg8052
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:08 pm »

Why not have Forest Spirits instead of Frogs?
that's a good idea. I suppose i was originally thinking that growth wouldn't be so good with the limited quantum supply, but i suppose that with 10 spare water quantums that aren't used by physalia, that's +20/+20

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interesting rainbow deck ideas... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=817.msg8053#msg8053
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:08 pm »

That would slow the deck down tons. You would need at least 2x Nova, 4x Supernova for maximum quantum and that means you would have to search your deck for both regular novas. Which would very easily screw you over. Exchanging it for 3 Novas would still make it easy to get screwed with, and you would only generate 9 quantum instead of 12. For each supernova you would exchange, you would lose 10 total quantum. That makes the deck VERY slow and you wouldn't get as much damage.

All in all, entropy mark is required.

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interesting rainbow deck ideas... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=817.msg8054#msg8054
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:08 pm »

For the quantum denial deck, maybe take mark of Darkness. That way, you will be able to get a Pest out early even when you don't have a Supernova in hand. Maybe add one Black Dragon to take advantage of a Darkness quanta buildup. Blessings sound good for using the Light quanta.
How would you ever pay for Supernova? :S

interesting rainbow deck ideas... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=817.msg8055#msg8055
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:08 pm »

Why not have Forest Spirits instead of Frogs?

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interesting rainbow deck ideas... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=817.msg8341#msg8341
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:09 pm »

Was just thinking of a way to use the dissipation shield.
But in my opinion, the best quanta source are the "supernova" and the "rustlers".
So I would have put 6 supernova and a few rustler and tried to deck out the false god :D
It's a dead case anyway, you're f***ed up against poisoning, and I kinda doubt you can generate enouth quantum to hold some serious creatures spamming opponent.

 

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