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Improving a 30 card Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=574.msg5573#msg5573
« on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:56 pm »

After reading silently for a week or to, i finally got myself registered. And, as probably everyone who joins the forum, am looking for some tips to improve my current deck.

I started out by building Scaredgirls Anti God deck and got myself some upgrades. Achieved an overally winning rate of 43%, though this is actually higher right now: The first matchups, when i made more mistakes than by now and without any upgrade (actually even  without all the cards ;-)) do lower this percentage.
Just a few days ago I decided to build a smaller deck I could use for all the other game modes; mainly PvP. I got a rather good winning percentage playing random (nearly 90%), but those rarely use any upgraded cards. Looking for an enemy in the chat, I met Jellyfish who did prove me that my deck is not as strong as it seems in random matches, by beating me twice, with to different decks - without letting me any way to act in the first match (a poison deck with an annoying amount of congeals).

My deck was mainly made by using the upgraded cards i already had in the FG-Deck and then adding some I personnally like - since I've been too lazy to farm a mono / duo deck from the scretch. So i'd appreciate some tips on how to improve my deck (upgrading all the cards not being the one, i'm looking for. Others may be interested in it, too, as it isn't that expensive to build, once you god a fake god rainbow upgraded. Thanks for any help :). Deck is below:

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Improving a 30 card Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=574.msg5574#msg5574
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:56 pm »

Ah yes, the dreaded t50 poison farm deck, he also whupped me with it because you're pretty dead without RoF, purify, and a lot of luck.

Back on topic though i think your deck could do with a bit more defence, and i would probably take out either one pillar or a supernova and substituse it for a dim shield simply because they can work when the opponent is already winning and has multiple creatures on the board,also because you only have monsters to use 7 elements, even counting the monsters abilities, no much quanta is going unused, only real way to fix that is to add a dis sheild, even though you don't have many towers, but it may work sometimes, i think the deck needs a bit more damage, but i cannot think of anything else to put in and keep it 30 cards.

But more defence is a must.


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Improving a 30 card Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=574.msg5575#msg5575
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:56 pm »

Looking for an enemy in the chat, I met Jellyfish who did prove me that my deck is not as strong as it seems in random matches, by beating me twice, with to different decks - without letting me any way to act in the first match (a poison deck with an annoying amount of congeals).
Ah yes, the dreaded t50 poison farm deck, he also whupped me with it because you're pretty dead without RoF, purify, and a lot of luck.
I feel so special. XD The other deck I used was a simple 30 card unupgraded speed Rainbow deck that I threw together randomly to thwart people that tried to build decks designed to beat my Physalia...D: The Rainbow was based on Scaredgirl's speed rainbow, but since I build it from memory, some things were a tad different. >.<"

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Improving a 30 card Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=574.msg5972#msg5972
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:00 pm »

I think you have too many characters that require a lot of quanta.  FFQ and Anubis need 6 and 8 quanta which means you're waiting for 3-4 Supernovas or several turns with quantum pillars.  I would suggest getting a few cheap cards (both to buy and in quanta cost) that use as many different elements as possible.  This is what I use:



All of the upgraded cards come from my FG deck or my AI3 grinding deck.  Everything else I bought at the bazaar just for this small, fast rainbow deck.  I use all 12 elements in this deck and they're all cheap except Bonewall and Pegasus, but those are the only cards for those element and they only cost 5 and 4 quanta.  Hope that gives you some ideas.

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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:00 pm »

OP, your deck has one MAJOR weakness. It uses INSANE amounts of life quantum. Just imagine what will happen if you get all those life quantum users early in the game. That's right. You will have a bunch of cards you cannot use.

Here is a 30 card rainbow deck that I use: http://elementstheforum.smfforfree3.com/index.php/topic,247.0.html (http://elementstheforum.smfforfree3.com/index.php/topic,247.0.html). It works much better because quantum usage is balanced.

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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:00 pm »

This is one of my favorite 30 card rainbow decks. ;D



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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:00 pm »

Mr. J, what's your mark on that?  Entropy I suppose...

Is it quick?  What about defense?  Fake Gods?

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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:00 pm »

This is one of my favorite 30 card rainbow decks. ;D


Lol that looks absolutely EVIL!


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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:00 pm »

This is one of my favorite 30 card rainbow decks. ;D


Lol that looks absolutely EVIL!
Oh, believe me, it is. I'd probably switch out one dragon for another Forest Spectre, though.

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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:04 pm »

I must admit I didn't check this part of the forum for a while - shame on me :-(. Thanks for all those replies and help! I am gonna change some (actually some more...) cards of the deck to lower and even out the quanta amount used.

Improving a 30 card Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=574.msg7119#msg7119
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:04 pm »

Lol, I forgot about this post too. >.<"

Mr. J, what's your mark on that?  Entropy I suppose...

Is it quick?  What about defense?  Fake Gods?
Sorry for the VERY late reply, lol. Yes, it is Entropy Mark. Yes, it is VERY quick and has enough control to last until the win. It's control is it's defence. It is NOT built for Fake Gods. When I build decks, I build them for PvP, since the dueling aspect of player verses player is, in my opinion, the core of the game, even if it doesn't work perfectly yet.

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Improving a 30 card Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=574.msg7120#msg7120
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:04 pm »

Having taken your main advice, i tried to cheapen the deck quanta-wise. There isn't much that hasn't changed, but the Entropy-Mark, the towers and the novas... Been testing this in the trainer for a while, I encountered just two problems: A stolen weapon can break a game, and those godfarming rainbow decks can make it deck out, if the Pulverizer is in the bottom of the stack, or deflagged / stolen.

An enchant artifact or two may help here, but earth quanta is the only one, which i was lacking sometimes...

Any additional advises? Does any of you have an idea, what to spend the Time and Darkness quanta on? So far, only two of each are used throughout the entire deck.

I do hope this deck is not just as useless, as my first one in the opening post ;).

Mark: Entropy


 

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