How to improve quintessed lava golems

[TerryTigre]

Hi, im playing around with this Lava Golem/Quintesse Deck

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So far the results are reasonable playing against A3.

The idea is to make the lavagolems untargetable, this does not prevent their pump ability, while maintaining a dimensional shield defense.

What im looking for is ways to improve the deck without sacrificing the untargetable lava golems aspect. I wouldnt mind other pumpables, like forest spirits or steam machines.

For example, i have thought about adding another element, gravity for momentum to bypass shields, currently im using 2 deflags for anti shield use.

[ScaredGuy]

Since it's already a trio, I wouldn't add another element if I were you. Also, it seems like you're hard-pressed for quanta.

[TerryTigre]

The need to intoduce gravity quanta sources is why i havent added momentums yet. It would make the deck slower, and it already is pretty slow.

Regarding the aether, 10 out of 31 cards produce it, half the time at least. Added to the aether mark, it is usually sufficient. Note that i usually have only one untargetable lava golem, so the rest of the aether quanta can be used for the dimensional shields.

That being said, an resource denial deck like fractal pests or earthquake/steal/defrags/pulverizer etc could stop it before it has the combo in place.

[pedzacyzolw]

What do you think about something like this ?

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or you can add monumentums and create this one:

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And if you want to avoid being locked by a bad draw this is another option:

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[TerryTigre]

Thanks for the suggestions.

I already play fire rush decks like  grabix.

The problem with the immolations is that you need a creature to set them off. If either the photons or the immolations dont show up, there is a problem. Also, in my experience Toughness 1 lavagolems are incredibly high on the target list of creatures the ai wants to kill. Thus the reason for the quintesse.

But to pull off the quintesse you will need 4 aether, so that means photon/immolation/lava golem in the first turn means it isnt quintessed. To remedy this its possible to wait playing till the aether quantas are there, but then you lose the rush advantage.

The reason for not relying on only the mark to provide earth quanta, is that basically you are limiting yourself to only a +2 increase/turn. With for instance 3 lava golems out, you can only increase 1 of them. This is why i was using a few earth pendulums. I may need to increase the number though, with a couple of defrags/explosions/steals it is too easy to shut the earth production down.

I like the earth mark / burning pillar/aether pillar scenario though, maybe by subsituing 1-2 fire pendulum and 1-2 aether pendulum it could work.

Something like this?

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[pedzacyzolw]

yes, i think it should work