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Help to improve a rainbow without upgrade (Semi-Permalink)
« on: May 17, 2012, 09:36:48 am »
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Here's my deck. It's intended to fight Half Blood and False Gods.
I still have a rough time against the False Gods though. I would make it smaller, but since I don't have Eternity yet... Anyone would have a clue to improve it beside upgrading cards ?
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Re: Help to improve a rainbow without upgrade (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2012, 10:26:20 am »
It seems a good deck, here my suggestions:

Wings against FGs are pretty useless, I suggest packing 3 permafrost.
A 2nd-3rd boneyard can fit cool in there, to generate more mutation bait.
Fire shield < carpace, you have tones of quanta so don't worry about the cost.
I would remove all the novas and supernova, as you have a great quanta generation
2 Otys is enough, no need having 3
You may have long games because your lack of early damage, so I recommend to replace that owl eye for an eternity. It also provides random creatures with the skeles  :D
Add 2 Protect Artefact for weapon and shield, and 5-6 sanctuaries
You don't have enough CC to make the bone wall stable, so I would remove it.
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Re: Help to improve a rainbow without upgrade (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2012, 02:17:22 pm »
drop the novas and super, fire shield and plate armor. That would help draws a lot.
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Re: Help to improve a rainbow without upgrade (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2012, 04:05:31 pm »
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Wings against FGs are pretty useless
Could you explain why ?
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I suggest packing 3 permafrost.
I like the idea of permafrost but it will cost me a lot since they are upgraded cards.
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I recommend to replace that owl eye for an eternity
I'll add an eternity as soon as i get one. But I have a real use for Owl'sEye (with otyughs for example)
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You don't have enough CC
Could a Maxwell' Demon help a bit ?

Anyway, I'll try adding sanctuaries, a boneyard, remove novas, fire shield, plate armor and an otyugh and test it some games.

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Re: Help to improve a rainbow without upgrade (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2012, 07:10:18 pm »
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Wings against FGs are pretty useless
Could you explain why ?
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I suggest packing 3 permafrost.
I like the idea of permafrost but it will cost me a lot since they are upgraded cards.
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I recommend to replace that owl eye for an eternity
I'll add an eternity as soon as i get one. But I have a real use for Owl'sEye (with otyughs for example)
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You don't have enough CC
Could a Maxwell' Demon help a bit ?

Anyway, I'll try adding sanctuaries, a boneyard, remove novas, fire shield, plate armor and an otyugh and test it some games.
Because most of the FGs have airbone creatures, so unless you wanna make a completely selective grinder with really high win rate on the few FGs without airbone creatures they just don't work there (and you don't have 12 spiders)

Sorry, I meant ice shields. Same effect.

Owl Eye, 1 fire storm, a pair of otys and 1 maxwell don't provide enough CC to make you survive with a bone wall, because FGs have tones of creatures that will make it bone dust. There is a heavy CC timebow in the forums, I have seen it like 3 weeks ago and I doubt about it's effectiveness. Against FGs, except specific decks the games are "defense or die"


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Re: Help to improve a rainbow without upgrade (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2012, 07:44:57 pm »
Many thanks for your advices.
I'll test it and come with feedback.

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Re: Help to improve a rainbow without upgrade (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2012, 11:15:55 pm »
chapuz, would you say throwing out the 2 bone walls and adding a parasite and a skull shield for cc? both use :death, so no quantum lost. the skellies generated can help the otys, and the poison would synergize well with maxwell.

to fit the ice shield in there, you could throw out both wings and the skull shield i mentioned.

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Re: Help to improve a rainbow without upgrade (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2012, 11:36:55 pm »
I really doubt about trusting CC against FGs. If I did, I would go for limitless CC: 2 parasites, 2 maxwells and. enough variety of shields. I keep the permafrost and PA addition, as it helps with the creatures you can't kill with the maxwells. Eternity instead of owl eye because you will still have long games and you will want an anti deckout and creature producing. At last, keep the RoF and add a plague. Also, long games = healing needed = sanctuaries and maybe a 3rd bond.
Seems a lot of additions, doesn't it? here what to remove:
the novas, bone walls and wings as I said before and the plate armour. And replace 1-2 steals for deflags.
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Re: Help to improve a rainbow without upgrade (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2012, 02:45:59 pm »
Hey, it runs much more smoother now!
I thought removing phase shields for ice shields would be tough, but since I heal a lot every turn, it's kinda effective.
I still need to get my hands on an eternity though.
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