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Re: Poison/growing-based Life Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17966.msg229636#msg229636
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2010, 11:31:08 pm »
Actually, they are six :P
And yes, it may be... But the water quanta is mainly used by them, unless against a poison deck, when rushing isn't THAT important. Even though, you may be right, so I'll try that (a bit offtopic, sry :D)

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Re: Poison/growing-based Life Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17966.msg229652#msg229652
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2010, 11:49:28 pm »
I rarely need more water quanta, as I fully expect some of my Forest Spirits to die. Due to various reasons, I'm not planning on upgrading any cards soon, (one reason is to play PVP1 you can't have upgrades), just trying to farm the AI3's for rare cards currently.

My current deck hasn't been modified since I last posted, but decided to give it more of a chance.
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I played 20 more games with this, lost 3, won 17, got 5 EMs, so I guess last time was just bad luck.

I'm going to try the deck that Krathos posted and come back with more stats.

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Re: Poison/growing-based Life Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17966.msg231239#msg231239
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2010, 03:54:42 am »
Summary of findings  ;D
This is for 40 games with each deck, though obviously luck plays a huge part, hopefully the large number of games will even it out some.

Deck version 1, same as the one I last posted: Lost 8, won 32, 6 elemental masteries
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Deck version 2, replaced a frog with a pillar, added Freeze: Lost 9, won 31, 11 elemental masteries
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Deck version 3, with pendulums but same ratio of water to life, took out freeze and added a frog and a scorpion: Lost 7, won 33, 6 elemental masteries
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Krathos' deck: Lost 9, won 31, 1 elemental mastery
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Analysis:
Druid's staff really, really helps.  :)
Krathos deck, obviously adjusted for PVP, didn't have many huge weaknesses, but in return didn't have an overwhelming advantage over anything either, hence the lack of masteries (though it could be my playing). The feeling I got from playing it was that it was really balanced, and was optimized so that chance played a lesser part in winning. I used Purify a lot early-game for some preventative healing, which really adds up, especially with two or more stacked. An extra heal probably would've yielded a lot more masteries. Adrenaline was great, but expensive to play and didn't really come in when I needed it most.

My decks are more dependent on the poison-type Forest Scorpion and a little less on Forest Spirit than Krathos, and also adds some Horned Frogs so that I can still play against Otyguh, and do some extra cheap damage. The AI tends to leave my frogs alone, since they really aren't much threat and have no abilities to kill. Scorpions are kinda useless in the face of any kind of shield, so it's best to get them out ASAP. In return for lack of CC, I was able to place heavier damage earlier. Though, I think ideally it's still best to have some CC, it depends on your playing style, You can switch out a pillar and a frog for 2 freezes if you want more CC, but it can slow you down some if you draw freezes too early on.

Switching to pendulums slows down the the earlier phase because water quanta is almost useless for early game, since the mark alone can sustain one spirit. They were really frustrating to get used to, since you have to wait for the element to change. If they were staggered, they'd be much more reliable. However, switching to pendulums really minimized bad draws, so it about evened out.

Overall, this is a really cheap deck to grind AI3's with, costing only around 400 electrum with about 75-80% winning rate. But don't use it on T50 because you'll get pummeled. It's really only good for grinding.

 

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