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Fireqeen/heal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53346.msg1120766#msg1120766
« on: January 12, 2014, 09:28:13 pm »
This seems like a nice deck non-upped, but it takes maybe 3 rounds for my fire queen to get in action. I should probably change my mark to air, but staying on green gives me much more heal effect. I think fully upped version would give me great adventage, enabling me to play firequeen early.

Is this deck worth upgrading?

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Suggested by pro's:

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Re: Fireqeen/heal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53346.msg1120772#msg1120772
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2014, 09:53:17 pm »
Hm hello.

Well to answer your last question. Any deck is worth upping but if you got less than 50≈upps I wouldn't have this as a priority.

So regarding the deck.
O and note this are only ideas I won't give you any straight answers.
  • I see you like healing however defence can be just as important as healing and often a single shield can block more damage than any permanent healing card. Talking shields I suggest hope since you got lots of unused light quanta.
  • Well since you need queens to make bonds effective I suggest focusing more on getting queens than anything else. So I suggest -4 life pillars +4 air pillars.
  • Personally I would remove some healing from this deck. 6healing cards is more than enough for any none stall deck, 10 works in some decks but 12 is a bit much.
  • At last I'd like to suggest adding rustlers to cover up your lack of life quanta. In this case i rather play fog or wings as shields.

At last some helpful links.
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/deck-compilations/(guide)-(collection)-ffq-decks/
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/trio-quartet/the-hopeful-queen/msg1027249/#msg1027249
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Re: Fireqeen/heal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53346.msg1120778#msg1120778
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2014, 10:13:15 pm »
I kinda went overboard with 12 healing cards. :D Fog shield was a great idea and it only costs 2 quanta which really suprised me.
Also with 4 extra air pillars I shouldnt worry anymore about my fire queens, especialy when upgraded.
But I doubt if I should do anything with my extra light quanta, because adding rustlers would bring huge risk if they deny my firefly. In the end it will cost only more life quanta.

This is how my deck looks now.

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Its much better now. I can pop my queen in 2 rounds. :D
I also gain the same healing effect, because of my early empatic/firefly combo.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2014, 10:21:46 pm by Sinisa1991 »

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Re: Fireqeen/heal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53346.msg1120780#msg1120780
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2014, 10:18:52 pm »
You really might want to take a look at the hopeful queen that Blacksmith linked to. 10 air pendulums and 4 air pillars I found to be optimal for quanta generation. Staffs or owls eye can be used as the weapon. I preferred owls eye. I wouldn't include both bonds and gratitude, I would choose one or the other and hope.
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Re: Fireqeen/heal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53346.msg1120781#msg1120781
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2014, 10:21:48 pm »
You need  :air, a lot of  :air. This is the build I recommend you:

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If you don't fear CC, then this one is what I would go for:

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In either versions you can swap a pillar/pendulum for another Hope

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Re: Fireqeen/heal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53346.msg1120784#msg1120784
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2014, 10:31:54 pm »
Those decks are what I was looking for... consistent, but it also makes me sad, because of the time I spent farming those damn healing shards. xD
Thanks guys. ^^

I might consider switching those empatic bonds with my shards. Shards are consistent and will prevent oppoents from outrushing me. They also cost alot less so Il try both.
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Re: Fireqeen/heal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53346.msg1120787#msg1120787
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2014, 10:42:29 pm »
Those decks are what I was looking for... consistent, but it also makes me sad, because of the time I spent farming those damn healing shards. xD
Thanks guys. ^^

I might consider switching those empathic bonds with my shards. Shards are consistent and will prevent opponents from outrushing me. They also cost alot less so Il try both.
Np. Well sog was 1 of the most used cards a few years ago then they nerfed it to give 3 hp and then they changed it back to 5 hp and made it a life card. These days sog's are mostly used in stalls. O and you can still use them to bonds. They are more for early healing so depends on what kind of deck you prefer.
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Re: Fireqeen/heal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53346.msg1120791#msg1120791
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2014, 11:00:14 pm »
Those decks are what I was looking for... consistent, but it also makes me sad, because of the time I spent farming those damn healing shards. xD
Thanks guys. ^^

I might consider switching those empathic bonds with my shards. Shards are consistent and will prevent opponents from outrushing me. They also cost alot less so Il try both.
Np. Well sog was 1 of the most used cards a few years ago then they nerfed it to give 3 hp and then they changed it back to 5 hp and made it a life card. These days sog's are mostly used in stalls. O and you can still use them to bonds. They are more for early healing so depends on what kind of deck you prefer.

After a few games of testing bonds seems to be the better option here. I'm getting fire queens pretty fast now so sticking with bonds is the best option.
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Re: Fireqeen/heal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53346.msg1120809#msg1120809
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2014, 01:53:46 am »
I made a deck similar to your first version:
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Unfortunately, it's fully upped and has more rares than yours. If you're looking for a good unupped one, Chapuz posted a really good one.
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Re: Fireqeen/heal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53346.msg1124420#msg1124420
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2014, 10:43:10 pm »
Have you considered adding some mitosis & adrenaline?

 

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