Speed deck for farming AI

[LetsGo]

This deck doesn't seem like it could be capable of earning coins all that fast, either, because without elemental mastery (and this deck has zero chance of it) you have to win nearly two games to a mastery deck's one, and the "nearly" only comes from winning a few more cards.

This definitely isn't the fastest way to go, though; 1-2 Forest Spirits, a Fire Spirit, maybe a Phase Spider in place of some of the creatures would all help it get going faster. If you really want a crazy fast deck though you might want to consider Immolate, as giving a 7 fire quanta on turn 1-2 to use for deflags and the highest attack creatures, plus some spares for a couple cheap spells or abilities, is big for a deck that aims to blitz.

Just got mastery at first.
Remember, there's room in the deck for a few other cards if you take out a few quantum pillars(you don't need that much). dim shield+ stolen vampire stiletto= mastery

[LetsGo]

You have the same problem a lot of rainbow deck have - you are not using all elements.

Think about it. You have tons of different quantum that you are not using. If you had even ONE card from that element, ti would be basically free. But you don't have, so that quantum is wasted.

When designing rainbow, you can't just take a bunch of cards that look cool. You really need to think and use math to determine and balance out your quantum usage.

Here is my version of this kind of deck: http://elementstheforum.smfforfree3.com/index.php/topic,247.0.html (http://elementstheforum.smfforfree3.com/index.php/topic,247.0.html)

Try it. you will see why having all the colors of the rainbow is much more efficient.

I only use two creatures because they are the only two that fit the criteria: creatures with high attack but cheap cost(using a creature with growth takes too long). Remember, just because you have quanta from all elements doesn't mean you have to use them. Even if the card I drew is free, it's useless if I dont actually need it.

[LetsGo]

@scaredgirl:
Don't be ignorant. I understand you're just trying to help him, but his deck obviously isn't supposed to function like a rainbow deck. He only uses quantum pillars so he doesn't have to fill his deck up with 4 pillars, and all his creatures cost so little quantum that it can work.
His deck is for SPEED not for quality. He even said that its meant for only lvl 3. Which can be beaten easily and consistently with a 'mono-fide' starter deck.


('mono-fide' = starter deck with only cards of the mark you have in it)

I also have a tip for you: Don't be a freaking dumbass.

His deck is not supposed to work like rainbow deck? You might be right.. he has Quantum pillars and Novas but uses only 4 elements. Yeah, that's going to work like a charm.

And this deck is NOT built for speed. If he draws 4 of those Graboids in his starting hand, do you have any idea how long it will take for him to be able to play them? That's not speed. That's the opposite of speed.

If you want to build a FAST rainbow deck (Quantum Pillars + Novas) you need to take CHEAP cards from EVERY element. This makes sure that whatever you draw, you will be able to play them relatively fast. Read that again if you didn't understand it.

I'm just trying to help here. Wtf are you trying to do?

..Oh, and remember that tip I gave you earlier.

Drawing 4 garboids probably won't happen, and if it did, then Ill just start a new game. Bad luck can kill any deck, after all. Not to mention I can still win, since I don't need four garboids to kill the opponent. Two shriekers and a lycanthrope means 22 damage a turn, Ill win in less than 10 turns and less than two minutes. With a 30 card deck, my draw is pretty consistent, and its usually 2-3 pillars. 1-2 novas, 1-2 lycanthropes, 1-2 garboids. All the creatures are usually out by turn 5 or 6. In fact, by the time I finish typing this, I couldve gone through a game already.

[RoKetha]

This deck doesn't seem like it could be capable of earning coins all that fast, either, because without elemental mastery (and this deck has zero chance of it) you have to win nearly two games to a mastery deck's one, and the "nearly" only comes from winning a few more cards.

This definitely isn't the fastest way to go, though; 1-2 Forest Spirits, a Fire Spirit, maybe a Phase Spider in place of some of the creatures would all help it get going faster. If you really want a crazy fast deck though you might want to consider Immolate, as giving a 7 fire quanta on turn 1-2 to use for deflags and the highest attack creatures, plus some spares for a couple cheap spells or abilities, is big for a deck that aims to blitz.

[Scaredgirl]

I give up.

Yeah, that 4 element rainbow is pretty impressive..

[Scaredgirl]

speed and rainbow shouldnt be in the same sentence, because they are too unreliable quanta wise early game.

I disagree. To get your rainbow fast, all you need to do is..

1. Take 6 Supernovas
2. Take 6-7 Quantum Towers
3. Take 1-3 cheap damage cards from all elements so that the combined cost of these cards are about the same
4. Limit your deck size to 30.

When you do this, your rainbow deck will be very fast because..

1. Supernovas balance out quantum production
2. All the cards are cheap, therefore you can usually play them immediately.

Also this way the luck element is very small because you won't get too many cards from same element and can play whatever cards you are dealt.

[Scaredgirl]

@scaredgirl:
Don't be ignorant. I understand you're just trying to help him, but his deck obviously isn't supposed to function like a rainbow deck. He only uses quantum pillars so he doesn't have to fill his deck up with 4 pillars, and all his creatures cost so little quantum that it can work.
His deck is for SPEED not for quality. He even said that its meant for only lvl 3. Which can be beaten easily and consistently with a 'mono-fide' starter deck.


('mono-fide' = starter deck with only cards of the mark you have in it)

I also have a tip for you: Don't be a freaking dumbass.

His deck is not supposed to work like rainbow deck? You might be right.. he has Quantum pillars and Novas but uses only 4 elements. Yeah, that's going to work like a charm.

And this deck is NOT built for speed. If he draws 4 of those Graboids in his starting hand, do you have any idea how long it will take for him to be able to play them? That's not speed. That's the opposite of speed.

If you want to build a FAST rainbow deck (Quantum Pillars + Novas) you need to take CHEAP cards from EVERY element. This makes sure that whatever you draw, you will be able to play them relatively fast. Read that again if you didn't understand it.

I'm just trying to help here. Wtf are you trying to do?

..Oh, and remember that tip I gave you earlier.

[Scaredgirl]

i think i'm awesome

You aren't the master of elements. God forbid anyone disagree with you and prefer a different play style.
I understand your decks are very effective, and you DO understand how to play this game well, but you don't need to comment on EVERY post with "improvements." People play how they want to play. I'm sick of reading your posts with you trying to change everyones decks into your own deck.


on-topic:
His deck IS fast, just because its not as fast as other decks doesn't mean its not fast. Skillgannons and Chivals decks may be faster, but those require no thought. This is a fast deck that can keep you occupied. So relax.

All your guys suggestions make this a different deck. Rainbow decks with the same purpose are allowed to be different, alright.

Wow, misquoting me.. yeah that's mature. You failed to read that tip I gave you, didn't you?

If you are sick of reading my posts, don't read them, dumbass. People ask suggestions and I give them. Whether they take them or not is up to them. I couldn't care less what kind of deck they are running with so no need for you to get all butthurt.

The fact is anyone with some experience in Elements and building a rainbow deck can see that this deck is not as effective as if could be. Just read the first response for this thread. When a thread is titled "speed deck", it should be fast. This deck is not. 2-3 minutes? No, that's not fast. Is this the worst deck in history? Of course not. Could it be more effective? Yes.

Skillgannos and Chivals decks ARE fast and effective. I know this because I have tried them both and they work (although they are not rainbow like this one). Maybe you should also try these decks in question before you start ranting? Then you might actually know what you are talking about.

I don't know what your deal is. I'm guessing you are a very young person with some weird ego issues who takes this deck building way too personally so I'll stop here and move on.

[LetsGo]

Actually, the deck takes slightly over 1 min to win ( wasn't timing it at first, and was doing other stuff, so I just estimated it.)
And calm down guys, jeez. I read all the other decks, and while the other speed decks might be faster, they cost a lot, especially the fire one, with brimestone eaters and ruby dragons. And unlike their decks, this deck will beat all the lvl 3's, even though a bad draw can seriously lower your reward.

Also, I just started this deck, so its not as good as it can be. Here's a better version:

-Mark of Earth
-10x QP <-- This deck uses 4 elements, so I might as well use these. Any deck centered on 3+ elements should use QPs. IMO, they 
should  be nerfed a little or something
-6 novas you want to get two at the start, so you can get a lycanthrope out and a garboid out next turn. Getting it out on turn one means it can not get killed, assuming you start first. Even if you didn't, your opponent probably wont be able to do anything.
-6 lycanthropes
-5 Garboids. 4 garboids mean you get on average 1 in your starting hand, so I put 5 just in case. You can also do 5 lycans/ 6 garboids.
-3 other cards <-- some form of shield or permanent control, or healing. I have:
 steal ( one lvl 3 deck has OE, which is the only card that can screw over this deck. You can also steal some weapons, since this deck probably wouldn't have any.)
Dim shield play this on the last 3 turns of the game to block as much damage as possible
Heal More hp means more coins, and this helps you get mastery if you're lucky. You need to draw it and be able to win before you take 11 damage

[joob]

I read all the other decks, and while the other speed decks might be faster, they cost a lot, especially the fire one, with brimestone eaters and ruby dragons. And unlike their decks, this deck will beat all the lvl 3's, even though a bad draw can seriously lower your reward.

You can easily make a mono-fire deck without brimstones or any other upgraded cards. It'll be slightly less effective than Chival's, but mine still usually wins in about a minute on most matches. Mono-dark is basically the same. They still cost 500+ due to the drags, but that's not too bad considering you already own some copies of most other cards you'd want in the deck.