Grow Higher!

[Gandora]

The idea is to use Heavy armor to allow RE to be immediately used.
This way your creatures get easily an attack boost. Also more HP is always useful.
This way your golems won't be killed too early and they can grow so more RE can be used.
EQ may be good to build in some versions but I didn't try too much
The last build will be a rainbow, so please also take a look at that one

I would like to have a fast/rush deck which uses this strategy. I made some attempts, but I can't decide
which build is best for this.
Your suggestions are of course appreciated
oh and it'd be great if you can say to which version your post refers to, this way no one will be too confused

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Version 1

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Golem + Minor Phoenix. The Phoenix are just for support or for faster start = not enough pillars to set up immediately. Also phoenix can be used as CC decoy.Version 2

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No Golems, so against CC decks you don't have to worry much + Crimson for final blow. (Maybe you can split phoenix in unupped and upped?)Version 3

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Cremation build, for faster start. Only two golems because mark is fire. (first try was a 5 turn win )Version 4

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Very similar to the one before, but with less focus on the combo. Instead weapon and defense has been added as well as a 6th cremation.Version 5

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Much focus on crimson dragons. The combo is more thought to be used on minor phoenix as start dmg. Probably quiet slow.

This is completely different. It's a PsnBow.

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It uses mostly 2 cost creatues, so even with 1 SN the combo can be played. Very powerful but lacks PC. You can replace the Dolls
for steal if you want (but they're so perfect for RE, they don't even need Armor). The deck may work better by replacing pends and SN with QT though I didn't try it.
This is very versatile. E.g. you can take out all creatures that cost more than 2 and put in shields and PC. Concrete example: -1 Spiders, -1 Pegasus, +1 Arsenic, +2 Steal.
You also may change the recluse with TU if you feel like it.

[furballdn]

1 looks the best imo since it focuses on armored, raged golems. For the other decks, armor is only used for protection.

[Mathematistic]

Among the fire builds, cremation build should be the best rush.
But I love the PSN build more... Maybe it's my natural inclination towards nova/supernova decks
Concerning that PSN, I feel like some scarabs might be good. Remove the graviton guards, deja vus (yes i know deja vu is good...) and frogs, toss in forest spirits, scarabs, 1 more pendulum (for stability) and maybe a discord.

[Gandora]

Among the fire builds, cremation build should be the best rush.
But I love the PSN build more... Maybe it's my natural inclination towards nova/supernova decks
Concerning that PSN, I feel like some scarabs might be good. Remove the graviton guards, deja vus (yes i know deja vu is good...) and frogs, toss in forest spirits, scarabs, 1 more pendulum (for stability) and maybe a discord.

I like PSN decks too
To replace frogs with unupped spirits (for faster use) is a good idea because is not used. I'd rather replace though the guards with -probably unupped- otyughs, otherwise you always have to wait for more SN to play the scarabs. Also, as you said, Deja-Vu imo fits in very well. Instead, I'd replace the Flesh Recluse with the Pendulum and the Elite Pegasus for a Discord.

[Mathematistic]

Among the fire builds, cremation build should be the best rush.
But I love the PSN build more... Maybe it's my natural inclination towards nova/supernova decks
Concerning that PSN, I feel like some scarabs might be good. Remove the graviton guards, deja vus (yes i know deja vu is good...) and frogs, toss in forest spirits, scarabs, 1 more pendulum (for stability) and maybe a discord.

I like PSN decks too
To replace frogs with unupped spirits (for faster use) is a good idea because is not used. I'd rather replace though the guards with -probably unupped- otyughs, otherwise you always have to wait for more SN to play the scarabs. Also, as you said, Deja-Vu imo fits in very well. Instead, I'd replace the Flesh Recluse with the Pendulum and the Elite Pegasus for a Discord.

Phase Recluse<Pegasus
And well, otys need at least 3 novas to be useful (you need the fifth to devour), so it's a no from me.
Any ideas?

[Gandora]

Among the fire builds, cremation build should be the best rush.
But I love the PSN build more... Maybe it's my natural inclination towards nova/supernova decks
Concerning that PSN, I feel like some scarabs might be good. Remove the graviton guards, deja vus (yes i know deja vu is good...) and frogs, toss in forest spirits, scarabs, 1 more pendulum (for stability) and maybe a discord.

I like PSN decks too
To replace frogs with unupped spirits (for faster use) is a good idea because is not used. I'd rather replace though the guards with -probably unupped- otyughs, otherwise you always have to wait for more SN to play the scarabs. Also, as you said, Deja-Vu imo fits in very well. Instead, I'd replace the Flesh Recluse with the Pendulum and the Elite Pegasus for a Discord.

Phase Recluse<Pegasus
And well, otys need at least 3 novas to be useful (you need the fifth to devour), so it's a no from me.
Any ideas?

Yes I tried it with (unupped) otyugh (needs only 4) and still noticed the lack of . I guess it's not so easy. PSnBows can change very quickly the theme.
I tried some versions with scarabs, what do you think?

This build here has more denial (had to cut down Armor+Rage combo):

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Here you can replace overdrive or steal either for a doll/creature or the 6th pend:

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Silence is always cool

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And this one completely lost the theme of Armor+Rage (but I love golems ):

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[Mathematistic]

Among the fire builds, cremation build should be the best rush.
But I love the PSN build more... Maybe it's my natural inclination towards nova/supernova decks
Concerning that PSN, I feel like some scarabs might be good. Remove the graviton guards, deja vus (yes i know deja vu is good...) and frogs, toss in forest spirits, scarabs, 1 more pendulum (for stability) and maybe a discord.

I like PSN decks too
To replace frogs with unupped spirits (for faster use) is a good idea because is not used. I'd rather replace though the guards with -probably unupped- otyughs, otherwise you always have to wait for more SN to play the scarabs. Also, as you said, Deja-Vu imo fits in very well. Instead, I'd replace the Flesh Recluse with the Pendulum and the Elite Pegasus for a Discord.

Phase Recluse<Pegasus
And well, otys need at least 3 novas to be useful (you need the fifth to devour), so it's a no from me.
Any ideas?

Yes I tried it with (unupped) otyugh (needs only 4) and still noticed the lack of . I guess it's not so easy. PSnBows can change very quickly the theme.
I tried some versions with scarabs, what do you think?

This build here has more denial (had to cut down Armor+Rage combo):

by Mathematistic

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Here you can replace overdrive or steal either for a doll/creature or the 6th pend:

by Mathematistic

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Silence is always cool

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And this one completely lost the theme of Armor+Rage (but I love golems ):

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First deck: Gravity quanta overused. Deja Vu+BH would be better than Scarab+BH. Also 4 Scarabs are overkill.
Second deck: Again, Scarabs do not agree with overdrive... 4 scarabs is too heavy on , too
Third deck: I like silence too well, since you're not using dolls, why not toss in a werewolf instead of a scarab? that won't interfere a lot.
Fourth deck: I'd rather you to do it as an entropy mark rainbow... that way you can include overdrive, archangel, and other higher cost crazy cards.

[Gandora]

Among the fire builds, cremation build should be the best rush.
But I love the PSN build more... Maybe it's my natural inclination towards nova/supernova decks
Concerning that PSN, I feel like some scarabs might be good. Remove the graviton guards, deja vus (yes i know deja vu is good...) and frogs, toss in forest spirits, scarabs, 1 more pendulum (for stability) and maybe a discord.

I like PSN decks too
To replace frogs with unupped spirits (for faster use) is a good idea because is not used. I'd rather replace though the guards with -probably unupped- otyughs, otherwise you always have to wait for more SN to play the scarabs. Also, as you said, Deja-Vu imo fits in very well. Instead, I'd replace the Flesh Recluse with the Pendulum and the Elite Pegasus for a Discord.

Phase Recluse<Pegasus
And well, otys need at least 3 novas to be useful (you need the fifth to devour), so it's a no from me.
Any ideas?

Yes I tried it with (unupped) otyugh (needs only 4) and still noticed the lack of . I guess it's not so easy. PSnBows can change very quickly the theme.
I tried some versions with scarabs, what do you think?

This build here has more denial (had to cut down Armor+Rage combo):

by Gandora

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Here you can replace overdrive or steal either for a doll/creature or the 6th pend:

by Gandora

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Silence is always cool

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And this one completely lost the theme of Armor+Rage (but I love golems ):

by Gandora

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First deck: Gravity quanta overused. Deja Vu+BH would be better than Scarab+BH. Also 4 Scarabs are overkill.
Second deck: Again, Scarabs do not agree with overdrive... 4 scarabs is too heavy on , too
Third deck: I like silence too well, since you're not using dolls, why not toss in a werewolf instead of a scarab? that won't interfere a lot.
Fourth deck: I'd rather you to do it as an entropy mark rainbow... that way you can include overdrive, archangel, and other higher cost crazy cards.

I should consider the skill cost more often xP
In the first deck change the scarabs for something else then? Back to spiders + Deja Vu? x)
second deck: exchange one scarab with golem, two with deja vu and the last with a spider?
third: agree with you
fourth: i didn't notice there were two discord xD well i'm not a huge fan of QT rainbows. But there are surely better PsN Bows with golems ^^

I guess this can go on forever xD again I learned some stuff. thanks for help and suggestions, got a nice idea for my next PsN bow
Now I got to study and then grind  x)

[Mathematistic]

Integrating the decks:

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Not exactly what it used to be, but like it
Try chaos power/blessing for 1 rage elixir/werewolf/pegasus if you like

[Gandora]

Integrating the decks:

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Not exactly what it used to be, but like it
Try chaos power/blessing for 1 rage elixir/werewolf/pegasus if you like

Looks good though I'd change thunderbolt for steal as I got RE and Scarab for CC. The 4th armor may also be an option.
Anyway, in general I like all versions we made