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Anti-FG "1 vs. 100" using a single Purple Nymph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10039.msg120925#msg120925
« on: July 22, 2010, 02:47:43 pm »
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This started as a variant of "(1.24) CC? Why bother?" by Amilir found at http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,9545.192.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,9545.192.html).

I was given an Purple Nymph by the Oracle today and immediately saw an opportunity to incorporate the nymph into this deck.  Here are some of my thoughts from playing a limited number of games against FGs and HBs.

General makeup of the deck:
Stall: 1 Permafrost Shield, 1 Jade Shield, 5 SOGs, 1 Antimatter
Creature Field Control: early Aflatoxin
Creature Control: Antimatter by Quinted Purple Nymph
Permanent Control: Pulverizer
Damage: 1 Quinted Lava Destroyer, Fractal 2nd Lava Destroyer (or other target creature)

Depending on the opponent, I use Protect Artifact on:
(1) Permafrost Shield
(2) Pulverizer
(3) Quantum Tower

Random thoughts (no particular order):
-use early Aflatoxin with care, you need a shield and/or SOGs up relatively quickly or the Aflatoxin will backfire on you
-use Aflatoxin on your 2nd Lava Destroyer if you need to hit through bonewalls
-having two different shields maximizes chance for better early stall
-Jade shield usually subordinate to Permafrost shield+Protect Artifact
-against permanent control and/or direct spell damage, Jade shield can be better
-if you need Pulverizer+Protect Artifact combo, then keep Jade shield as a ready backup to Permafrost
-3 Quintessences are needed to maximize early Lava Destroyer+Quint or Purple Nymph+Quint
-do not use 3rd Quint on 2nd Lava Destroyer if you need to "alpha strike" using Fractal
-review your largest amount Quanta before using Fractal to "alpha strike"; it may the FG's creature that is a better Fractal target
-stop using Electrum Hourglass as soon as possible against FGs with multiple Feral Bonds and/or Miracles, Lava Destroyer(s) need time to grow
-need to stat collecting detailed stats
-need to do a FG-by-FG breakdown

Any other thoughts?

p.s.  The title refers to the fact that I had an early Quinted Purple Nymph out and was able to antimatter every creature on the FG's board.

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Re: Anti-FG "1 vs. 1000" Purple Nymph idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10039.msg121166#msg121166
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2010, 07:27:18 pm »
Pros :-
- Reusable antimatter for cheap (4 :entropy)
- another body for offense (but just 3 damage increase unupped/upgraded)

Cons :-
- first instance of antimatter using purple nymph cost 9 :entropy + 4 :entropy for a total of 13 :entropy
- needs 2 turns to start casting antimatter (and 13 entropy quantas)
- needs a quint to ensure nymph's safety vs many FGs
- nymph itself cost 9 :entropy, sometimes even getting 6 :entropy for the spell Improved Antimatter itself is hard and it can be crucial on the timing of casting (the earlier, the better)

tbh i think having a purple nymph doesnt help you much more instead of using 2 Improved Antimatter like in the original decklist. 2 Imp.AM cost 12 :entropy as opposed to 13 :entropy (and 2 turns) to use the nymph ability once
the only situation where having a nymph instead of 2 copies of Antimatter trully shines is against FGs with momentumed + high damage dealers i.e. Gemini, Obliterator and Graviton but even then, a lone purple nymph means you can only cast it one time per turn so it doesnt really help the situation

i'm not against the idea
i have recently acquired a purple nymph myself (its my first and what i've always wanted) and have been trying to fit her in my deck so i'm going to test this idea but i'm willing to bet that i will still stand by my initial thought after some testing

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Re: Anti-FG "1 vs. 1000" Purple Nymph idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10039.msg121211#msg121211
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2010, 07:57:59 pm »
Pros :-
- Reusable antimatter for cheap (4 :entropy)
- another body for offense (but just 3 damage increase unupped/upgraded)

Cons :-
- first instance of antimatter using purple nymph cost 9 :entropy + 4 :entropy for a total of 13 :entropy
- needs 2 turns to start casting antimatter (and 13 entropy quantas)
- needs a quint to ensure nymph's safety vs many FGs
- nymph itself cost 9 :entropy, sometimes even getting 6 :entropy for the spell Improved Antimatter itself is hard and it can be crucial on the timing of casting (the earlier, the better)

tbh i think having a purple nymph doesnt help you much more instead of using 2 Improved Antimatter like in the original decklist. 2 Imp.AM cost 12 :entropy as opposed to 13 :entropy (and 2 turns) to use the nymph ability once
the only situation where having a nymph instead of 2 copies of Antimatter trully shines is against FGs with momentumed + high damage dealers i.e. Gemini, Obliterator and Graviton but even then, a lone purple nymph means you can only cast it one time per turn so it doesnt really help the situation

i'm not against the idea
i have recently acquired a purple nymph myself (its my first and what i've always wanted) and have been trying to fit her in my deck so i'm going to test this idea but i'm willing to bet that i will still stand by my initial thought after some testing
This is exactly why I don't think Purple Nymph is one of the best nymphs. While the ability is amazing, it is far too expensive to use reliably outside of an Entropy-heavy deck.

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Re: Anti-FG "1 vs. 1000" Purple Nymph idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10039.msg121307#msg121307
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2010, 08:42:31 pm »
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i'm not against the idea
i have recently acquired a purple nymph myself (its my first and what i've always wanted) and have been trying to fit her in my deck so i'm going to test this idea but i'm willing to bet that i will still stand by my initial thought after some testing
This is exactly why I don't think Purple Nymph is one of the best nymphs. While the ability is amazing, it is far too expensive to use reliably outside of an Entropy-heavy deck.
After spending the day playing this deck, I have to agree with both of you about the difficulty in using a single Purple Nymph as a main focus.  However, I am now trying a tweaked version which switches a Quint for an Antimatter.
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Re: Anti-FG "1 vs. 1000" Purple Nymph idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10039.msg123951#msg123951
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2010, 02:29:24 pm »
See original post for a updated tweaked version(s) and new notes.

 

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