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Gigantic Vampire - Revamped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12721.msg160706#msg160706
« on: September 18, 2010, 08:11:30 pm »
Gigantic Vampire - Revamped

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This is a FUN deck to use against AI3. It's too slow to be used for grinding but personally, I love it!  ;D

The objective of this deck is to play a chimera with vampire ability and with enough attack to achieve EM. Chimera will be played as a one hit kill and thanks to the intended mechanism of vampire ability, no matter how many HP left from your opponent, you will gain HP from the total attack of your gigantic vampire.

The strategy is similar to any fractal pest/devourer deck - play the fractal pest as soon as possible but with consideration of maximizing the numbers of pest (might need to wait to remove any duplicate copies in hand),  cover behind dusk mantle. Wait until you can have a final combo of eclipse, fractal dragon, chimera and liquid shadow - strictly with that order and all in the same turn as a final attack to achieve EM. If you have both chimeras in hand, you might consider playing eclipse then one chimera to clear the board to maximize fractal dragons. (credits goes to binde22 for noticing this too).

Unfortunately this deck doesn't work quite well unupgraded because you rely on early fractal pest and that extra quanta from towers really helps a lot. I might also consider replacing one of the card with siphon life to survive longer in case too many creatures comes in play early.

Of course you might win much earlier by playing eclipse, fractal dragon or chimera early, but this is not the objective of this deck and it won't be fun, right? :P

edit: added another dragon and removed an aether tower - a bit faster and everyone can see the dragon now. :D

Gigantic Vampire in action:






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Re: Gigantic Vampire - Help please https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12721.msg160763#msg160763
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2010, 09:11:39 pm »
you need a gravity pull since you can only have 1 gravpulled monster at a time.make your deck simpler but not using A+B+C+D combo they are difficult to set up from the.start most rush decks can rush you before you can set up your combo.
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Re: Gigantic Vampire - Help please https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12721.msg160787#msg160787
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2010, 09:39:40 pm »
If you're going to utilize gravity quantum, you need more cards that use it.  Things like momentum, gravity pull, or black hole would really help.  Otherwise those gravity towers could interfere with drawing what you need or else just build up a terrible excess of gravity quantum which never receives play.
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Re: Gigantic Vampire - Help please https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12721.msg160792#msg160792
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2010, 09:42:37 pm »
Chimera is my final blow for EM and I didn't put any gravity pull because the plan is to avoid damage by denying quanta from the start similar to the usual fractal pest deck. Though it is a long combo but usually, by the time I play chimera I can combo with liquid shadow to obtain EM. On the other hand I do admit it still unreliable and prone to bad draws.

So, is there any other method to get an indestructible vampire with huge attack that will result in certain EM ? Vampire buff perhaps?

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Re: Gigantic Vampire - Help please https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12721.msg160796#msg160796
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2010, 09:45:02 pm »
you need more attack by what I can see to give your chimera enough damage so I'd suggest adding a dragon.

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Re: Gigantic Vampire - Help please https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12721.msg161650#msg161650
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2010, 09:06:27 am »
Thanks for the feedback guys. I revamped the deck, removed the voodoos and quint and rely on dragon and eclipse as my ultimate attack and stick with two strategies - quanta denial and of course my Gigantic Vampire. ;D

(http://helltgivre.free.fr/elements/?mark=4sl&deck=z274gz67t47t5z67t6z27t87taz27tez6808z480i)
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With this deck you will usually get to the point of almost losing but in the end you will win with EM like below screenshots.




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Re: Gigantic Vampire - Help please https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12721.msg161652#msg161652
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2010, 09:17:35 am »
dolls and pests don't have attack power at all. I'll go for fractal ball lighting.

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Re: Gigantic Vampire - Help please https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12721.msg161662#msg161662
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2010, 10:11:51 am »
love the idea of putting 2 chimeras then getting rid of pests and fracting a drag then putting a second chim

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Re: Gigantic Vampire - Revamped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12721.msg162296#msg162296
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2010, 10:08:40 am »
dolls and pests don't have attack power at all. I'll go for fractal ball lighting.
erm.. I already removed the dolls in my previous post. Ball lightning doesn't have enough attack compared to dragon. The strategy of this deck is to stall with quanta denial and wait until you can have the ultimate gigantic vampire with 100+ attack to achieve EM.

love the idea of putting 2 chimeras then getting rid of pests and fracting a drag then putting a second chim
The actual reason I put 2 chimeras is to avoid it being the last one in the deck, but yeah you're right! It also works as clearing the board for you to fractal more dragons.


First post updated. Feeling quite satisfy with the re-VAMP-ment of this deck, I'm keen to post this deck to the fun deck section - any comments?
Thanks to everyone who provided feedback (though I think not many people really got the grasp of what I'm trying to achieve with this deck or interested enough to test this deck) :P

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Re: Gigantic Vampire - Revamped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12721.msg162349#msg162349
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2010, 01:29:22 pm »
Hmm, yes well, that 1 dragon i hard to find amongst those towers, I almost missed it. Was just about to submit a comment on not finding a dragon when I found it. Sneaky little critter :))
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Re: Gigantic Vampire - Revamped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12721.msg162400#msg162400
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2010, 03:48:41 pm »
Hmm, yes well, that 1 dragon i hard to find amongst those towers  :))
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Re: Gigantic Vampire - Revamped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12721.msg162531#msg162531
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2010, 08:57:36 pm »
Hmm, yes well, that 1 dragon i hard to find amongst those towers  :))
Modify please, I don't understand what you're saying :P.
lol.  i can't find dragons by any towers either!   Aaargggh!   :))

 

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