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my death/aether stall poison deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25829.msg329395#msg329395
« on: May 08, 2011, 08:11:33 am »
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Re: my death/aether stall poison deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25829.msg330141#msg330141
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2011, 08:16:11 pm »
Help is usually helpful

My lame comedy act aside, what is this deck designed against? You want to use very different decks for PvP I, AI3 or top 50.

The other thing that will help the deck is balancing quanta use. Your :death QI is 12/5.5 = 2.18 and your :aether QI is 46/7.5 = 6.13 this means you have too much :death quanta and too little :aether quanta. Try switching a couple pendulums for aether pillars, or maybe even going for almost all aether pillars and a death mark.

reference for QI: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,5676.0.html
(I counted the mark as two pillars)

*EDIT* Actually on second thought I think for a stall 6.13 is about right. So your :aether usage is alright but you're still overproducing :death . Maybe try 1 or 2 pendulums to aether pillars then adding some more cc?


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Re: my death/aether stall poison deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25829.msg335342#msg335342
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2011, 09:36:55 am »
ok thanks this is just a pvp deck

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Re: my death/aether stall poison deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25829.msg335568#msg335568
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2011, 05:25:41 pm »
You are going to get owned by even a tiny bit of PC, not to mention healing, both of which aren't terribly uncommon in pvp1, and you aren't really fast enough to rush before a deck containing PC/healing gets its PC/healing rolling.

Unfortunately, I don't really have a terribly good suggestion for this. The only thing that really comes to mind is a couple of bone walls in the place of the lightnings or the silences, but this is pretty dependent on what sorts of opponents you're up against.

Aside from that, it looks like a lot of fun, and should be quite effective against most of the pvp1 game.

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Re: my death/aether stall poison deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25829.msg340346#msg340346
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2011, 07:14:03 pm »
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Change 2 pends for 2 Animate Weapon(uped) and 2 pends for 2 aether pillars.
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Re: my death/aether stall poison deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25829.msg340375#msg340375
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2011, 07:39:35 pm »
Change 2 pends for 2 Animate Weapon(uped) and 2 pends for 2 aether pillars.
Don't suggest upped cards for a deck that is clearly unupped.

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Re: my death/aether stall poison deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25829.msg340394#msg340394
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2011, 07:50:23 pm »
Change 2 pends for 2 Animate Weapon(uped) and 2 pends for 2 aether pillars.
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This 2 cards might help.
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Re: my death/aether stall poison deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25829.msg340402#msg340402
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2011, 07:56:28 pm »
Change 2 pends for 2 Animate Weapon(uped) and 2 pends for 2 aether pillars.
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Re: my death/aether stall poison deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25829.msg372671#msg372671
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2011, 03:10:01 pm »
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52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 52q 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 624 624Ratcharmer was right about your quanta balance in this deck. Switching to a :death mark and swapping your pends over to :aether will help a ton, but you'll still be over-producing :death and under-producing :aether. Switching out 7 of the pends to be Aether pillars will balance your quanta and make you more resistant to Earthquakes. I would also suggest dropping the Silences for another 2 Lightnings so you can have more CC or finish off your opponent if his health gets pretty low. This is what these changes would look like:

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Another option would be to keep the :aether mark and :death pends, drop the Dim Shields for Bonewalls, and add some lightnings. You'll still need to find a good quanta balance, but this is effective as you can kill creatures with the lightning to feed your bonewall. That's a pretty big change from your original deck, though, so I won't bother building that up unless you want me to. Hope that helps! :)

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Re: my death/aether stall poison deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25829.msg373892#msg373892
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2011, 05:46:46 am »
With this deck you have a couple of things, you have CC, you have silence, you have stall, and a minimum amount of damage from poison. We want to focus more along the lines of making our deck a total stall while still putting out damage. Normally, in PvP, the standard is a 30-card deck, so in order to beat said decks easily if our damage is really low in our deck we make our deck 31 cards.

But as is stands, you have too much death quantum and nothing to do with it. Now, you seem to be wanting lightnings as well as silence for CC and for hand control, lets balance this out with out current deck. So, we want to increase the amount of stalling with CC/HC, to do this we need to increase our :aether production by switching to a :death mark and using :aether pillars.

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Our QI (Qunatum Index) is going to be high, but considering this deck was made for stalling that's quite fine. So, we have our 31-card deck, *check*
We have a better balance in quantum *check*
And we now have a deck that should roflastomp in PvP *check*
Well, hope this helps =]
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