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Fractal phoenix [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61939.msg1233039#msg1233039
« on: May 16, 2016, 01:24:48 am »
I was thinking about a deck with can beat ai4 should have cc, a bit of pc and some attack power.
And playing against Eternal Phoenix i noticed it (:fire decks in general) can be a perfect deck fot that...
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But after some games i confirmed(someon said to me on chat) a diference between de production of :fire and :aether with ended up retarding my rounds.
Maye something wrong with the pillars/pendulums. Can someone helpme with that ?
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Re: Fractal phoenix [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61939.msg1233041#msg1233041
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2016, 02:11:07 am »
I'd remove the Shields, they take space, are expensive and can be PC'd, and as this is supposed to be a fast deck, a few rage Potions should be enough for CC. I'd also remove the Fahrenheit as the damage depends on the amount of quanta you have and this isn't a deck that's meant to accumulate a lot, you just build up quanta to spam Phoenixes. I'd keep the Deflags for Shields and add a Fractal. I'd also remove the Immo but that's personal.

I used unupgraded cards to replace the ones taken out, if you have them upped, it's even better.

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Re: Fractal phoenix [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61939.msg1233042#msg1233042
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2016, 02:13:33 am »
the name of the deck is fractix, and there isn't a official version, like almost all the decks with fractal (like pestal)

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fire buckler is useless outside a stall deck, rage elixir is cool if can be used as cc or on your creature for an attack boost, brimstone eater is totally UP compared to other quanta generating creatures.

other than the pend/pillars, there are tons of mods (specially in pvp): long sword, cremations, dim shields (!), silence, etc.


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Re: Fractal phoenix [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61939.msg1233045#msg1233045
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2016, 03:01:50 am »
Another solid fractix version is this one:
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if you have the other ups, it's even better.

Also, check out this match up ;)
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/round-4-249/%28fire-salvager%29-flyingcat-3-2-jenkar-%28aether-sideboard%29/
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Re: Fractal phoenix [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61939.msg1233046#msg1233046
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2016, 03:23:04 am »
I tweaked back and forth and ended up with this version; its probably not optimal and fairly different from the original deck, but its a different approach to the deck using some cards that are a bit more efficient versus ai4 than any other opponent (due to its double draw yet shitty card quality AI4 is relatively weak against sobra for instance). As such it might give you some good ideas; i dont actually think fractix in any form is going to be optimal versus AI4 though; if you want a high winrate go with a slower version of swallow using an extra SoP and salvagers and if you want electrum there was a pretty good grabbow i think. However, if you want to have fun, using your own decks and discussing them is a valid option!
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Re: Fractal phoenix [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61939.msg1233069#msg1233069
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2016, 01:35:45 pm »
Woah so many replys...
I'd remove the Shields, they take space, are expensive and can be PC'd, and as this is supposed to be a fast deck, a few rage Potions should be enough for CC. I'd also remove the Fahrenheit as the damage depends on the amount of quanta you have and this isn't a deck that's meant to accumulate a lot, you just build up quanta to spam Phoenixes. I'd keep the Deflags for Shields and add a Fractal. I'd also remove the Immo but that's personal.
Yeah i agree with the remotion of Fahrenheit, but the fire bucklers are so sweet  i cant let them go so easly.

the name of the deck is fractix, and there isn't a official version, like almost all the decks with fractal (like pestal)

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fire buckler is useless outside a stall deck, rage elixir is cool if can be used as cc or on your creature for an attack boost, brimstone eater is totally UP compared to other quanta generating creatures.

other than the pend/pillars, there are tons of mods (specially in pvp): long sword, cremations, dim shields (!), silence, etc.
These are some nice decks I gonna try them later
Another solid fractix version is this one:
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if you have the other ups, it's even better.

Also, check out this match up ;)
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/round-4-249/%28fire-salvager%29-flyingcat-3-2-jenkar-%28aether-sideboard%29/
i have some electrum left, but i am bit scared of spend careless

I tweaked back and forth and ended up with this version; its probably not optimal and fairly different from the original deck, but its a different approach to the deck using some cards that are a bit more efficient versus ai4 than any other opponent (due to its double draw yet shitty card quality AI4 is relatively weak against sobra for instance). As such it might give you some good ideas; i dont actually think fractix in any form is going to be optimal versus AI4 though; if you want a high winrate go with a slower version of swallow using an extra SoP and salvagers and if you want electrum there was a pretty good grabbow i think. However, if you want to have fun, using your own decks and discussing them is a valid option!
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Well, i never heard of swallow, and what is this "salvagers"?
At first look your deck seems a bit huge but with the SoB it can be more fast drawing, i was thinking in put some Sob on my deck too but i didnt mange how to

In general i think i should upgrade more pendulums and pillars, remove the Fahrenheit and maybe make use of my SoB
Thanks for the replyes
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Re: Fractal phoenix [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61939.msg1233070#msg1233070
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2016, 03:19:21 pm »
this is swallow: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/duo-decks/swallow-%28patient-otyugh%29%28pulled-sofo%29%28platinum%29/

don't be afraid of spending  :electrum on pillars or pends, since they can be used in every deck of the same element; specially in fractal decks, upped pillars makes the difference.

 

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