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Firestall for Silver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52980.msg1116858#msg1116858
« on: December 22, 2013, 03:10:26 pm »
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I made this firestall deck a while ago with ideas from around the forums, and it worked pretty well against Bronze Arena and in PvP 1. I've been trying to modify it for the Silver Arena, without much luck, I can't deal damage fast enough.
Should I add more deflags? I find I usually don't have them when I need them, but with three, I usually had two in my hand and never used them.
I don't have any more miracles or SoD's to add, still trying to get more.
I find unupped phoenix usually clog up my hand, but I don't have any minor phoenix yet.
Any other suggestions? I've tried a half-dozen variations of this, and this is the version that works the best, but it still doesn't work great for Sliver. Is that just because firestalls don't work well in Arena?
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Re: Firestall for Silver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52980.msg1116859#msg1116859
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2013, 03:19:53 pm »
CC-based decks struggle a lot vs. Dexterity without help because if a Silver deck with Dex is built with 6 Elite Grabbys and 6 Shriekers you're going to be facing not 12 Shriekers, but a mindblowing 24. You only have 6 Bolts and 3 Pots.

The best fast control decks for Silver are Bonewall-based Supernova-bows and Monoair. Both have repeatable CC, one benefits even more from deaths (BW), and the other is very fast. Both get around shields, do massive damage and have infinite control.
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Re: Firestall for Silver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52980.msg1116860#msg1116860
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2013, 03:47:17 pm »
Any other suggestions? I've tried a half-dozen variations of this, and this is the version that works the best, but it still doesn't work great for Sliver. Is that just because firestalls don't work well in Arena?

The main problem here is probably that there aren't any unupped decks that can achive much more than 50 % win rate in silver...
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Re: Firestall for Silver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52980.msg1116864#msg1116864
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2013, 04:40:54 pm »
Well, that would explain my lack of success :P I would guess this deck has a 35-40% win rate vs silver, but I haven't gotten around to getting actual stats.
I would like to use those two decks, and I've seen plenty of ideas I'd like to use, but I don't have any supernovas or owl's eyes yet. All my upgrades are from beating the daily god, and for some reason, I haven't been able to get an owl's eye for mono-air, I'm still trying to get one.

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Re: Firestall for Silver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52980.msg1116909#msg1116909
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2013, 12:32:17 am »
Another little issue, grinding Arena with a stall isn't profittable, it takes too much time per game. Unless you play Platinum with a 500 HP EM deck, where some wins can get you sweet electrum
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Re: Firestall for Silver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52980.msg1117026#msg1117026
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2013, 10:09:16 pm »
That makes sense. I was trying to get the extra cash from the EMs, but I could probably get more cash overall with a fast deck.

 

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