Fractal Adrenalined Frogs - is there any Hope for them?

[suxerz]

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so i was messing around with the trainer and to find a good deck against half-blood, but since i'm posting this in the deck help section - it doesn't do well enough. the strategy is to put up an adrenalined-luciferined-frog asap and with the help of leaf dragon, fractal more frogs and use luciferin and stand behind hope

few details about the cards that i pick:

• unupgraded frogs - max damage, generates more life quanta and safe from maxwell demon
• unupgraded luciferin - to avoid getting too much on the first turn
• unupgraded hope - well, it's cheaper
• electrocutor - apart from removing momentum, CC vs otyugh, parasite, etc

the problem i'm facing:

• i feel that either fractal comes too early or i do not have enough aether quanta
• definately wanted to add permanent control but i don't know how to slot them in
• or maybe there's more?

btw, before providing any comments - be honest to me if you think this idea is a total crap, ok? 

[RavenLord]

if it works it's a good idea
For control add 1 or 2 upped thorn carapace

[Wynden]

Er.....How DO you get aether quanta?
I'm going to assume you meant aether pendulums, because if those were life pendulums you can't use fractal at all.

Your deck needs 4 cards to both start this deck:
Luci, Fractal, Hope, and the Frog.
Against AI5, you NEED stalling; shields, of some sort, are the typical answer to that.
That's too much to count on against an AI5 in the first few turns, normally.
You need to get a Frog (2 Life), then 8 Aether to Fractal, 2 Life x # of Frogs, 1 random quanta for Luci, another 2-3 turns to GET that type of light quanta to play Hope, and Hope to play it. This is all before you actually find those cards in your hand.
That's 2 + 2 x # of Frogs , 8 , 8 , and 1 Random quanta.

First of all: Change mark to aether and MAKE them life pendulums. That way, you'll automatically start with some form of aether quanta, which is necessary to kick start this deck.
Try adding some phase shields, or another card which can stall for a few turns while you get it set up.
The leaf drags, in my opinion, will regularly arrive too early for them to be of any use, or too late so as to say you've already won. They are more of a liability in my mind, but I may be wrong.
Add 2-3 Life towers/take out 2-3 life pendulums. They're necessary to get your Frogs out, which is key to this deck.

In terms of your card choice in general, don't think of just maxwell's demon; upgrade it if you have the chance. More damage = faster win. Maxwell's Demon can take out one Frog a turn. If you upgrade + fractal it, you can have up to 9 Frogs everytime you play it, adding up to 45 damage aka about 1/4 of AI5's life. Also, ELECTROCUTOR. 

Problems: This is one of those "best case scenario = easy win" decks. If you CAN get that lucky, it's very easy to win. If you don't, then it's much slower than it was intended to be.
RoF. It's an OTK in some ways, and with it, you're as good as gone.
Your choices of elements give you no possible way to add Permanent Control. That's something you have to deal with.
Fractal does indeed sometimes come early, and that's one thing many players have to deal with when playing these decks.
It's not that this deck is essentially bad in all aspects, but without those key cards, your deck is doomed.

[Tea is good]

could use upped frogs and forget adren step. and find some aether quanta.

[twinsbuster]

It would be great if you get your setup, but how often do this happen?
OMG it's too many step...
fractal frog>luciferin>hope>adrenaline>leaf dragon>fractal frog......

maybe up the frog and remove adrenaline?

a 35 card deck with only 6 pendulums+2 towers?
good luck.

[suxerz]

yea, i was thinking of aether mark instead of life - edited. thanks for the feedback. so, i guess this idea is a total crap then lol
one tiny thing i don't understand - @Wynden: what do you mean by ELECTROCUTOR?

i'll change the deck later once i give it a few more try in the trainer.

[Baily18]

^ upgraded lobo.

[suxerz]

of course i know what electrocutor is - heck i even have it in my deck and stated in my deck. i was implying on what Wynden means when he wrote ELECTROCUTOR in his post. is he correcting my spelling? - i spell it right, did i?

[EvaRia]

Keep in mind that an adrenalined frog with luciferin will generate 4  every turn.

[ddevans96]

of course i know what electrocutor is - heck i even have it in my deck and stated in my deck. i was implying on what Wynden means when he wrote ELECTROCUTOR in his post. is he correcting my spelling? - i spell it right, did i?

He means that if there WAS a Maxwell's demon, you could electrocute it.

[King of doom]

I would replace the heals with Empathic bonds

[suxerz]

ok, done more tries in the trainer and i'm convince that this idea is a total crap - there is no Hope for getting a long combo like this one you'll most probably end up with no creature and a useless hope. i guess i'm just lucky in my early tries with this deck.

i'll leave this topic open for few more days and unless there's someone who can prove otherwise, i'll lock this topic. thanks again for the feedback.

edit: as mentioned, this combo is too long to be usable. topic locked.