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Earth/Death Defensive https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9744.msg115797#msg115797
« on: July 16, 2010, 03:44:07 am »
First off I'd like to say I'm new to Elements and I enjoy many cards games. I only have basic cards available from the bazaar.

Deck:
3 Hammer
3 Titanium Shield
6 Poison
3 Stone Dragon
4 Basilisk Blood
4 Bone Pillar
7 Earth Pillar

I go with 30 cards to better my odds of executing. I like to play defense in any game I play so the Basilisk Blood/Titanium Shield really do it for me. I like the constant drain from the poisons, too. I win about 60% pvp with this setup. I'm interested to know what people who have a better understanding of them game have to say. Thanks.

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Re: Earth/Death Defensive https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9744.msg115801#msg115801
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2010, 03:50:47 am »
This is a lot like the earth/poison stall I made for the war. You're on the right track for one. If I were you, I'd remove the bone pillars. fuel the poison with a mark, put in 1-3 arsenics (if you have them), take out the hammers and a shield, then put in a couple stone pillars and enchant artifacts. You could also get rid of the dragons for stone skins.

Here's the deck I mentioned:

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Have fun :-p If you don't have the arsenics, the hammers or dragons would be fine.

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Re: Earth/Death Defensive https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9744.msg115804#msg115804
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2010, 03:53:41 am »
welcome :)
basically earth do not match will death so well (except poison stall)
for a beginner deck, you'll have to give up death and take gravity if you would like to stay with earth

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Re: Earth/Death Defensive https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9744.msg115805#msg115805
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2010, 04:00:14 am »
welcome :)
basically earth do not match will death so well (except poison stall)
for a beginner deck, you'll have to give up death and take gravity if you would like to stay with earth
He doesn't have to give up anything. If he wants to use a defensive strategy like this, he can. Besides, Gravity and Earth don't combine that well for a basic starter strategy any more than Death and Earth do.

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Re: Earth/Death Defensive https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9744.msg115809#msg115809
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2010, 04:04:37 am »
Thank you for your advice Demagog.

Twinsbuster, what are some good cards in Gravity to use for Earth.

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Re: Earth/Death Defensive https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9744.msg115835#msg115835
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2010, 04:29:36 am »
He doesn't have to give up anything. If he wants to use a defensive strategy like this, he can. Besides, Gravity and Earth don't combine that well for a basic starter strategy any more than Death and Earth do.
just to give some suggestion:

earth: Basilisk Blood, Enchant Artifact, Plate Armor
gravity: Gravity Shield, Armagio, Otyugh

of course not all of them in one deck

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Re: Earth/Death Defensive https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9744.msg115837#msg115837
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2010, 04:33:36 am »
I was thinking since my deck can only last 30 turns that might short me in some defensive stand offs. What if I added some non-mana cards to lengthen the duration of my deck. I actually don't know what happens when you run out of cards. I was think about adding about 4 novas. This could be a horrible idea just wanted to see though. If I do add the novas to have a nifty card: Vampire Stiletto. It's 1D so if I do have those novas it's playable. Probably not wise either way.

Edit:
This is what I have now:
3 Short Sword
6 Poison
10 Stone Pillar
3 Titanium Shield
3 Stone Skin
5 Basilisk Blood

It seemed severely week on the offensive side (some weakness is to be expected in a defensive deck), so I put the Short Swords there. Stone Skin is a beast with 50+ quantom. Still thinking about adding 4 Novas and 1 Vampire Siletto.

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Re: Earth/Death Defensive https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9744.msg115903#msg115903
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2010, 06:39:35 am »
If you took out the hammers and put in the novas and a vampire dagger that should be fine... it would make the deck better against darkness decks.

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Re: Earth/Death Defensive https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9744.msg115949#msg115949
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2010, 09:31:24 am »
I was thinking since my deck can only last 30 turns that might short me in some defensive stand offs. What if I added some non-mana cards to lengthen the duration of my deck. I actually don't know what happens when you run out of cards. I was think about adding about 4 novas. This could be a horrible idea just wanted to see though. If I do add the novas to have a nifty card: Vampire Stiletto. It's 1D so if I do have those novas it's playable. Probably not wise either way.

Edit:
This is what I have now:
3 Short Sword
6 Poison
10 Stone Pillar
3 Titanium Shield
3 Stone Skin
5 Basilisk Blood

It seemed severely week on the offensive side (some weakness is to be expected in a defensive deck), so I put the Short Swords there. Stone Skin is a beast with 50+ quantom. Still thinking about adding 4 Novas and 1 Vampire Siletto.
I assume the mark is  :death, right?

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Re: Earth/Death Defensive https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9744.msg115950#msg115950
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2010, 09:34:50 am »
I was thinking since my deck can only last 30 turns that might short me in some defensive stand offs. What if I added some non-mana cards to lengthen the duration of my deck. I actually don't know what happens when you run out of cards. I was think about adding about 4 novas. This could be a horrible idea just wanted to see though. If I do add the novas to have a nifty card: Vampire Stiletto. It's 1D so if I do have those novas it's playable. Probably not wise either way.

Edit:
This is what I have now:
3 Short Sword
6 Poison
10 Stone Pillar
3 Titanium Shield
3 Stone Skin
5 Basilisk Blood

It seemed severely week on the offensive side (some weakness is to be expected in a defensive deck), so I put the Short Swords there. Stone Skin is a beast with 50+ quantom. Still thinking about adding 4 Novas and 1 Vampire Siletto.
I assume the mark is  :death, right?
No, he completely ignored the advice I gave him and is using an air mark.

Don't ask questions you already know the answer to.

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Re: Earth/Death Defensive https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9744.msg115961#msg115961
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2010, 09:50:11 am »
I was thinking since my deck can only last 30 turns that might short me in some defensive stand offs. What if I added some non-mana cards to lengthen the duration of my deck. I actually don't know what happens when you run out of cards. I was think about adding about 4 novas. This could be a horrible idea just wanted to see though. If I do add the novas to have a nifty card: Vampire Stiletto. It's 1D so if I do have those novas it's playable. Probably not wise either way.

Edit:
This is what I have now:
3 Short Sword
6 Poison
10 Stone Pillar
3 Titanium Shield
3 Stone Skin
5 Basilisk Blood

It seemed severely week on the offensive side (some weakness is to be expected in a defensive deck), so I put the Short Swords there. Stone Skin is a beast with 50+ quantom. Still thinking about adding 4 Novas and 1 Vampire Siletto.
I assume the mark is  :death, right?
No, he completely ignored the advice I gave him and is using an air mark.

"Here's your sign."

Don't ask questions you already know the answer to.
Ok, i deserved that i guess.
EDIT: I added that to your post, Dem.
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Re: Earth/Death Defensive https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9744.msg116635#msg116635
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2010, 06:04:52 am »
Funny guys :P.

I've been fooling around:

13 Quantum Pillar
6 Poison
6 Chrysaora
6 Nova
6 Basilisk Blood
3 Titanium Shield
1 Pulverizer
1 Vampire Stiletto
Earth Mark

That's where I left off. However I ditched this idea to make a Shrieker Deck so I can AI3 grind -_-

 

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