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empathic Boneyard for AI3 & PvP1 :death :life https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37797.msg474822#msg474822
« on: March 27, 2012, 06:38:47 pm »
So, I hit the search and found nothing similar to this (which quite surprised me, as I expected at least some comments on why it doesn't work, since boneyard + empathic bond seems like an obvious combination to me)
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It seems I tend to draw either a lot of pillars and no boneyard/bonds, or a lot of them but no pillars (which makes me think the problem isn't the number of pillars, or it would be either always no pillars or always no bonds).

Gimme some thoughts please.

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Re: empathic Boneyard for AI3 & PvP1 :death :life https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37797.msg474823#msg474823
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2012, 07:01:06 pm »
lets begin with your strategy:

its a good synergy to explore, when it works it gives a lot of regeneration power, making you tough to kill. But there some hard counters to this:

.Creatureless can win over yours pretty easily because it renders a lot of your deck almost useless
.rush decks probably kills yours before you can set up decently
.Besides vulture (and spark but cmon...) all your critters will have a base attack of 1. This means any Dr shield will stop your deck almost completely, and that is quite bad as there are several shields capable of this

now about your deck:

its far from optimal i have to say. the quanta balance is kinda strange and you have 3 different shields on your deck. Aflatoxin is just too much of an expensive CC and even if you think about using it on you, you will again have the same problem with DR shields. 40 cards is also too much, try to only use what you really need and cut it to a 30 or 35 card deck, for better performance

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Re: empathic Boneyard for AI3 & PvP1 :death :life https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37797.msg474827#msg474827
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2012, 07:25:00 pm »
Thank you for answering

.Besides vulture (and spark but cmon...) all your critters will have a base attack of 1. This means any Dr shield will stop your deck almost completely, and that is quite bad as there are several shields capable of this
Indeed, I hope to outdeck those while keeping healing up.
I used to have a bone dragon, but I ditched it after checking the deck's QI

Another problem are decks with good permanent control, as I'm pretty much defenceless once I'm out of Empathic Bonds.

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you have 3 different shields on your deck. Aflatoxin is just too much of an expensive CC and even if you think about using it on you, you will again have the same problem with DR shields.
I put the skull shield in, after Aflatoxin was recommended to me in kong chat. The idea is to either spam my side when I don't draw boneyards (or nothing dies), or to use it on the opponent together with the skull shield (or a Spine Carapace later, when I have enough money to upgrade cards). (Skull shield's 50% kill chance for 1HP creatures, together with the Malignant Cells doubling each turn should give a steady number and kills every round)

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40 cards is also too much, try to only use what you really need and cut it to a 30 or 35 card deck, for better performance
Thanks, I'll take out Aflatoxin, the skull shield and whatever else I find and see what that does.
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Re: empathic Boneyard for AI3 & PvP1 :death :life https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37797.msg474836#msg474836
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2012, 07:53:52 pm »
well if you intended to deckout with this deck having more than 30 cards is indeed important

for a more specialized deckout deck, skull shield and aflatoxin will be your tools to lock your opponent, while at the same time you may "lock" your field with malignant cells too, just to have enormous amounts of healing with the bonds to assure you dont die. It would still have some flaws though

EDIT: ok i read your post again and now i think i know why you are not being able to get good results: you need to choose

It means your deck was built for many situations, his strategy is too scattered instead of focused, making it lose effectiviness

considering the cards you have here, you can either go full lockdown with malignant cells, a deck that triggers death effects for your vultures, or a simple mono-life rush with healing for a chance of EM

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Re: empathic Boneyard for AI3 & PvP1 :death :life https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37797.msg475115#msg475115
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2012, 05:23:03 pm »
I'm getting really good results with
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even though the skull shield doesn't seems to kill malignant cells (I think it only kills creatures with atk>1), it keeps them from harming me and I can finish with a bonewall/plague combination that usually leads to elemental mastery
Focusing on lockdown really helped, thank you.

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Re: empathic Boneyard for AI3 & PvP1 :death :life https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37797.msg475117#msg475117
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2012, 05:35:57 pm »
I actually have a four-tier version of this, but it in no way could possibly face AI3's. Here it is anyway though.

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The upgraded cards work just as fine when not. Just food for thought to potentially help.
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Re: empathic Boneyard for AI3 & PvP1 :death :life https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37797.msg475261#msg475261
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2012, 02:53:20 am »
deck gets shutdown by almost any stall if not all try more critters

 

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