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Can anyone help on my unupped FG deck ? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31376.msg397227#msg397227
« on: September 22, 2011, 08:53:21 am »

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Re: Can anyone help on my unupped FG deck ? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31376.msg397263#msg397263
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2011, 11:33:17 am »
maybe (just maybe)

-1 gravy shield

-1 steal (deflag is usually better because you might not want to have your enemy's perms, eg. shields)

+9001max hourglasses (if you make it a 60-card deck, you're gonna need a lotta drawing power)

- steals/deflags if you manage to get a pulvy or two

idk what else.. XD

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Re: Can anyone help on my unupped FG deck ? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31376.msg397274#msg397274
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2011, 12:09:10 pm »
I'd think that it would need way more quanta than 16 towers and 4 novas in 58 cards.  My FG deck has 23 upped towers out of 60 cards, and I never ever have too much quanta, at least in the early game, and that's where these sort of decks fail the most, so you need to be as strong as possible in the early game.

Having said that, I agree with the previous post; hourglasses are amazing, and yeah, I think you have too many steals as well.  Keep both the gravity shields; those are incredible against many false gods, and can win games alone against several of them; I use 2 in my deck.

I too started with a variant of scaredgirl's rainbow, and it bore a strong resemblance to what you have here.  The first things I took out were the sundials and steals, so make of that what you will.

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Re: Can anyone help on my unupped FG deck ? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31376.msg397280#msg397280
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2011, 12:25:32 pm »
I'd think that it would need way more quanta than 16 towers and 4 novas in 58 cards.  My FG deck has 23 upped towers out of 60 cards, and I never ever have too much quanta, at least in the early game, and that's where these sort of decks fail the most, so you need to be as strong as possible in the early game.

Having said that, I agree with the previous post; hourglasses are amazing, and yeah, I think you have too many steals as well.  Keep both the gravity shields; those are incredible against many false gods, and can win games alone against several of them; I use 2 in my deck.

I too started with a variant of scaredgirl's rainbow, and it bore a strong resemblance to what you have here.  The first things I took out were the sundials and steals, so make of that what you will.
I want to know that why you will take out the sundials.
They are very useful in the early game when i facing Ferox and Incarnate , also you can use it and let the Otyugh to eat the enemy's creatures.
At last , you can use the sundial to stop your creatures to heal and get EM.

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Re: Can anyone help on my unupped FG deck ? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31376.msg397294#msg397294
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2011, 01:25:57 pm »
With the sundials, the following situations occur:
1) You are dominating the game, and are going to win.  You don't play the sundials because you don't want to block your own attacks.
2) You are getting your ass kicked, and are going to lose.
   a) The sundials don't help you anyway, you just lose a turn later
   b) The sundials save your bacon, and they make the difference between winning and losing.

Thus, whenever situation 2b occurs, this is when you want the sundials.  I found that usually I was in one of the other situations, so either I just delayed the inevitable, or I didn't need them.  You may find that they are more useful to you; it might depend, your playstyle might differ, or your skill level might be higher or lower than mine.  I think I'd definitely take out one or two of the steals, though.  I found that often I didn't want to steal a weapon or shield for fear of destroying the one I already had, and a lot of FGs don't have that much else worth taking, and those that do have something worth taking, have a LOT of permanents, and something like Pulverizer is better for them.

You could try it with and without the sundials and see what happens.  Note that I didn't say that was the best thing to do, but it was what I did :p  It seemed to help me, or at least didn't hurt, but I could be wrong about that.

The other things I ditched fairly early were the boneyard/bonewall/fallen druid/empathic bond thing.  That's a pretty major change to the core of the deck, though.  I ended up going with steam machines and firefly queens for my main sources of damage.

To give you an idea of where I went with this, the cards in your list that I still have in my FG farmer (except upgraded) are the pillars, the gravity shields, the enchant artifacts, the firefly queens, 2/3 of the quintessences, the otyughs and the hourglasses.  I'd probably still have the antimatters, but I was lucky enough to get 2 purple nymphs so I use those instead.

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Re: Can anyone help on my unupped FG deck ? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31376.msg397306#msg397306
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2011, 02:02:10 pm »
you ment this deck http://elementscommunity.org/wiki/decks/rainbow-decks/almost-non-upgraded-false-god-rainbow/
You did just add to much
3 deflag and 3 steals are to much only 2 steals are still good.
and novas (WHY) you've 16 quantum pillars.
Take out the grav shields and put one ice shield in.
1 dim shield and 2 quints are also enough.
Take out 1 enchant
those are 13 cards you don't really need
and if you did this you can remove 2 quantum pillars.
oh yeah a miracle is nice to put in if you have one
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