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Any helpful ideas? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38617.msg480632#msg480632
« on: April 14, 2012, 12:28:34 am »
http://helltgivre.free.fr/elements/?deck=zD52gz452hz552o52qz452t52uz35428pk
that is my current deck^ any helpful ideas to make it better,I want it to be able to beat a half-blood easily or beat a false god cause those two are the most challenging for me I've beat half-blood once and false god never and i constantly lose in arenas,pvp1,pvp2 and occasionally in pvp dual. Please post your ideas.
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Re: Any helpful ideas? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38617.msg480643#msg480643
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2012, 12:54:53 am »
Half-Bloods: probably doable with enough upgrades.
False Gods: this type of deck is not optimized for FGs. The fully upgraded version may work for some select FGs with little control that are prone to being rushed early, but on the whole, nope.

  • That being said, you'll need permanent control of some sort.
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  • Nightmare is an interesting choice, but you have to take into the account that Novas and Quantum Pillars only really produce a limited number of stable quanta (~4 of each element), and you already have to pay for Lycans' abilities anyway.
  • Weapon choice for this type of deck can be Gavel (takes advantage of your :earth mark), Arsenic (great against slower decks that can shut down your creature damage), or Vampire Dagger (works better upped because of the net 12 damage swing each turn it offers)
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Re: Any helpful ideas? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38617.msg480820#msg480820
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2012, 06:57:46 am »
Ok, unless I'm missing something, you have no way to buff your scorpion, which means it's a dead card.  In order to beat Ai4/FG's you need defense, so add in some bonewalls, while taking out scorpion, 1 mummy, 2 dragons, and 4-5 bone pillars.  Try and get a 30 card deck.  With that being said, your going to have a VERY hard time beating FG's with an unupped deck, especially with a rush deck.  Most gods have a one or two unupped counters if you know your going to face them (via oracle).  Finally, the best unupped FG farmer is Liquid Antimatter: 6 antimatters, 6 liquid shadows, 2 dusck shields, dark mark, rest entropy pends (Think that's it anyway).
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Re: Any helpful ideas? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38617.msg480821#msg480821
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2012, 07:09:07 am »
Hmm,and how am i to get these cards?

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Re: Any helpful ideas? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38617.msg480822#msg480822
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2012, 07:10:23 am »
Hmm,and how am i to get these cards?

For liquid Antimatter? Bazaar.
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Re: Any helpful ideas? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38617.msg481268#msg481268
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2012, 01:00:39 am »
Uh,the deck failed I can't even beat the Elder cause i have no monsters and idk how liquid shadow is supposed to help me,the deck seems contradiction to each other imo but I'm new so my opinion probably doesn't mean much.

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Re: Any helpful ideas? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38617.msg481273#msg481273
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2012, 01:06:39 am »
Hmm,and how am i to get these cards?

For liquid Antimatter? Bazaar.
The idea is to use Liquid Shadow on your opponent's Antimatter'd creatures, which will force them to not only heal you, but damage their owner.

And the problem with this is that now the AI has a higher priority of destroying their own AM'd creatures.  So unless someone creates a variant with Quints, you're out of luck.  I'd stick with a strict MonoDeath to farm AI3.

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Re: Any helpful ideas? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38617.msg481279#msg481279
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2012, 01:12:39 am »
Ok :/ this attempt was a big money waste i guess.

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Re: Any helpful ideas? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38617.msg481284#msg481284
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2012, 01:16:04 am »
Not really.  Now you have a part of a card library you don't have to grind :electrum for to attain.

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Re: Any helpful ideas? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38617.msg481297#msg481297
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2012, 01:29:08 am »
Uh,the deck failed I can't even beat the Elder cause i have no monsters and idk how liquid shadow is supposed to help me,the deck seems contradiction to each other imo but I'm new so my opinion probably doesn't mean much.
FG decks are not meant to go against elders and elder decks aren't meant to go up against FGs. You're supposed to antimatter and then liquid shadow opponent's creatures so they'd heal you and do damage to them. AI has gotten smarter recently, so LA isn't very FG viable anymore.

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Re: Any helpful ideas? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38617.msg483231#msg483231
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Re: Any helpful ideas? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38617.msg483311#msg483311
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2012, 01:15:30 am »
I'd go with Ghost of the Past as opposed to Devonian Dragons for speed.

 

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