Ashes of Heaven

[Demut]

I just searched angel rage potion and my deck is the only one that popped up.

[Baily18]

^ gotta search harder
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11475.html
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1474.msg16102#msg16102

[Demut]

Thank you, now I can compare directly.

[MrMojo]

I'd drop the angels and just go for mono-fire.
Replace the rage potions with immolations.
Replace the angels with 1 or 2 dragons photons.

Immolate the photons to get a boost of fire quanta.
Or you can immolate the phoenixes and rebirth them next turn.

You don't understand the concept of "improve" do you? What you suggested is a completely different an unrelated deck.

I'm not sure you do either.
If he runs with my idea, he'll probably get a better win rate.
If he gets a better win rate, then that would've "improved" his deck, wouldn't it?

It didn't say that he wanted to stick with the angels anyway.
His post below did though but I didn't read that when I first posted.

[Demut]

Thats not a improvement, thats completely different. Basically, take your 57 Chevrolet to a mechanic, ask him to improve it, you know, tune it up, modify some of the parts make it run more smoothly.  When you come back, and its a 64 Ford Thunderbolt, he says since its a better car, that it is improved.

Would you be happy or unhappy? Would you call that an improvement or a completely new car?

[Demut]

Just tested both for ten games.

Ashes of Heaven won 8 out of 10 in unupgraded PvP.

Wrath won 4 out of 10.

The problem with wrath was photon's and immolation's effect on the auto macguffin combined with the lower creature count. The auto-macguffin only refreshes if there are no playable cards in the hand. Immolations and photons are playable at start so if you have either in hand and no pendents, it won't refresh. This resulted many times in me having to choose between angel and rage potion or phoenix.  Either way, both my mid-game and early game were extremely weakened.  Not a good thing.

[Demut]

I just finished trying that alteration which is supposed to make it faster, that had only seven out of ten wins. Not a significant difference, taking out the shield and weapon seemed to be a good idea. But the pendelums slowed the mid-game.

[Baily18]

^ 10 games is a very small sample for testing and comparing.
Edit: 600th Post. Woohoo!

[Demut]

You know how long a hundred would take? That would take days. Ten tells me whether or not it is in the ballpark at least.

[Baily18]

Ik, im just saying, just because you have 1 less win out of 10 doesnt mean that it performs worse overall.

[Demut]

i said there was no significant difference.  It didn't seem to really make it better or worst.

[Sal]

Made a simmilar deck cause i was bored.

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This one is running Blessings instead of Phoenix and skips the control cards. Fun to play for a few games.