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Antagon's FG Pharao-Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5542.msg56077#msg56077
« on: April 19, 2010, 11:04:02 pm »
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removed a sog and replaced imp. fog with imp.steal

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it is based - like the "normal" pharao-fg-decks, at drawing cards and survive in the early game and take control in the lategame.
first i used a pest and a butterfly effect, but i figured out, its very slow, i also think a pulverizer is very bad for gravity management, so i decided to use a fallen druid. you can produce critters with destroy or steal ability, its good for producing damagedealers (i thought of lava golem before, but with druid you dont need it) and you have a nice combo with mutating and reverse to enemys hand with eternety. also it fits (the entropy) into the quantum management.

some of you might think that 6 sundials are too many, but i would prefer 7 or 8, 6 is a must - in my eyes, also in the lategame nice for em-timing.

the 6 sogs are nice against poison or for octane, also dont want to cut them.

perfect is to qe the anubis and doing the rest with his ability.

usually ea eternety + permafrost (fog+turtle are for early game)

firestorm+plague for paradox, osiris, hermes, graviton, fq, decay


played deck the whole day, and think it has an even better win-percentage (ok, obliterator=instant quit, almost gets an early pulverizer every match, and you cant handle it that early, but quite good chances against rainbow and divine glory, also graviton and hermes are not that hard, sundials+eternety are very nice) than a variant of puppychows fg rainbow (look at his thread), i used before, BUT - and that is a major "but" - it is way slower.

i forgot to note the time (and the average time), but if you want to get a good win-loss percentage, try this deck, only obliterator (and dark matter - exspecially with early nymph) are real neckbreakers. (against eternal phoenix now 2-3)



*edit* any suggestions or ideas for making it even better (or faster, but with same win percentage)?


*edit2* just beat obliterator (no early pulverizer and continued reverse a dragon to his hand, now i have beaten ALL fgs with this deck.

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Re: Antagon's FG Pharao-Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5542.msg56102#msg56102
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2010, 11:51:08 pm »
It looks awesome, except you may want to put ina Bonewall with your scarabs eating the FG's creatures. Otherwise looks awesome, although 8 quantum towers seems really low :/

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Re: Antagon's FG Pharao-Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5542.msg56112#msg56112
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2010, 11:57:15 pm »
It looks awesome, except you may want to put ina Bonewall with your scarabs eating the FG's creatures. Otherwise looks awesome, although 8 quantum towers seems really low :/
also thought that, and had 10 first, but played 8 for a while and im almost never short on random quanta, cause your drawing that fast with 6 sundials+6hourglasses.


also thought of bonewall (instead of fog), but i think when you start devouring you should have already the control, bw would be only good against arsenic, but therefor you have massive healing with the 6 sogs and the 2 bonds, never lost to arsenic, i cant stop fast.

im still thinking of it, also thinking of replace firestorm with deflagration, not sure.

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Re: Antagon's FG Pharao-Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5542.msg56166#msg56166
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2010, 12:52:21 am »
Won't you be short of gravity quanta?

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Re: Antagon's FG Pharao-Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5542.msg56174#msg56174
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2010, 01:00:06 am »
Won't you be short of gravity quanta?
till now, i was twice, once with 5 graveyards in play, and i tried to clear the field(had permafrost and major healing out, so it was no problem), the other time i reversed a gravity nymph from druid to my hand and then i played it :), in any other case, you build up all your gravity in the early game, youll have so much then.

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Re: Antagon's FG Pharao-Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5542.msg56215#msg56215
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2010, 02:06:11 am »
I personally think two pharaohs are not gonna be enough to create a scarab swarm. also, even after that, supplying grav quanta is going to be hard as well.
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Re: Antagon's FG Pharao-Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5542.msg56355#msg56355
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2010, 11:16:36 am »
I personally think two pharaohs are not gonna be enough to create a scarab swarm. also, even after that, supplying grav quanta is going to be hard as well.
3 are too many, you hold long at hand (against most fgs) and its a deadcard till you play (with qe or anubis out against harder matchups), i also tried only one, but 2 are much more comfortable.

and i really never had problems with gravity quanta.

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Re: Antagon's FG Pharao-Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5542.msg57764#msg57764
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2010, 09:37:51 pm »
added statistics, not bad

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Re: Antagon's FG Pharao-Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5542.msg57844#msg57844
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2010, 12:42:00 am »
The biggest thing i notice different from my decks is the amount of towers.   Mine has 22/51 cards, or 43%.  Yours has 18/52, or 34%, which is lower percentage than even some rainbow decks with supernovas.

Your starting hands would average 2.38 pillars, while mine would average about 3.

 Has this not  been a problem so far?

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Re: Antagon's FG Pharao-Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5542.msg57847#msg57847
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2010, 12:50:09 am »
The biggest thing i notice different from my decks is the amount of towers.   Mine has 22/51 cards, or 43%.  Yours has 18/52, or 34%, which is lower percentage than even some rainbow decks with supernovas.

Your starting hands would average 2.38 pillars, while mine would average about 3.

 Has this not  been a problem so far?
you should try it, im sometimes forced to play an early sundial (when i have the light quanta) to draw, but with the timemark and the 6 hourglasses you draw so fast that the towers are more then enough.

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Re: Antagon's FG Pharao-Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5542.msg57850#msg57850
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2010, 12:53:53 am »
The biggest thing i notice different from my decks is the amount of towers.   Mine has 22/51 cards, or 43%.  Yours has 18/52, or 34%, which is lower percentage than even some rainbow decks with supernovas.

Your starting hands would average 2.38 pillars, while mine would average about 3.

 Has this not  been a problem so far?
you should try it, im sometimes forced to play an early sundial (when i have the light quanta) to draw, but with the timemark and the 6 hourglasses you draw so fast that the towers are more then enough.
Well, i guess sometimes when I play you only get 1 hourglass which may be destroyed, or then you have to play a second one.  Even waiting 2 turns to play an hourglass can hurt.  But putting up with those early quantum issues may be better, so you have less useless towers other times.

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Re: Antagon's FG Pharao-Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5542.msg57854#msg57854
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2010, 12:57:26 am »
The biggest thing i notice different from my decks is the amount of towers.   Mine has 22/51 cards, or 43%.  Yours has 18/52, or 34%, which is lower percentage than even some rainbow decks with supernovas.

Your starting hands would average 2.38 pillars, while mine would average about 3.

 Has this not  been a problem so far?
you should try it, im sometimes forced to play an early sundial (when i have the light quanta) to draw, but with the timemark and the 6 hourglasses you draw so fast that the towers are more then enough.
Well, i guess sometimes when I play you only get 1 hourglass which may be destroyed, or then you have to play a second one.  Even waiting 2 turns to play an hourglass can hurt.  But putting up with those early quantum issues may be better, so you have less useless towers other times.
its harder to have no hourglass ready when first one gets destroyed, and i never had problems with quantum, only against seism ;)

 

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