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mono darkness deck. what should i upgrade? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13684.msg172444#msg172444
« on: October 07, 2010, 07:06:47 pm »
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Today i made this deck and its pretty good (ofc, didnt come up with the idea but this is the deck i use atm)

anyways.. i have now earned some electrum and i am ready for my first upgrade.
i dont really know what since the deck as it is atm works pretty well. i have regen in my vampires and my wep. i have CC in my drain lifes (and little regen there as well) and some permanent control. atm i can easily do AI3s with elemental master actually and i get it often.

so what do you think i should upgrade? ^_^ and why :D

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Re: mono darkness deck. what should i upgrade? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13684.msg172606#msg172606
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2010, 11:53:17 pm »
Nightfall has a good upgrade. You have 12 creatures. All of them get +1 attack more.
You also could use the upgraded steal in a Anti- FG deck, which could be a reason to upgrade it.
Then, you could upgrade the vampires. If you play against AI3, it´s better than the HP upgrade of Devourers, and makes your deck faster.
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Re: mono darkness deck. what should i upgrade? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13684.msg172608#msg172608
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2010, 11:57:21 pm »
I suggest the pillars first; Towers allow 1 quantum upon play, which helps you get your cards (mainly Devourers in this case) out faster.
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Re: mono darkness deck. what should i upgrade? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13684.msg172635#msg172635
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2010, 12:37:09 am »
When you would play a deck with creature or weapon-based creature control (e.g. Otyugh, Parasite, Mindflayer), it is a real advantage to get your creature out 1 turn earlier with towers, especially, if you expect that the opponent has similar Creature Control. Or if you use growing creatures, which are weak in the beginning (e.g Forest Spirit, Lava Golem), the tower upgrade can be good.

Quantum Towers are also a good upgrade (although other upgrades in a rainbow deck are more important). It can win you games, if you are able to play a shield (or other important card) one turn earlier.

The upgrade of Nightfall, and the upgrade of the vampires helps you here to drain more life.
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Re: mono darkness deck. what should i upgrade? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13684.msg172638#msg172638
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2010, 12:45:47 am »
I agree with Teffy and Will. Go for Towers first. It was a great boon for me when I was first starting to have those towers on hand. Sped up my decks a lot and makes a huge difference. After the towers, go for Pests (devourers upped). Theystay the same in cost, but get +0/+2 which is huge against Ai3 in that it gets past all of Elder's CC with the exception of Shockwave and Thunderbolt.

After that, it's up to you. Fair warning though, those vamps will be a hefty cost with upgrade, but worth it with Eclipse.

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Re: mono darkness deck. what should i upgrade? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13684.msg172791#msg172791
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2010, 09:23:39 am »
thanks guys :)
i have upgraded to eclipse now and will do my towers next :) probably steal then as it looks now :)

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Re: mono darkness deck. what should i upgrade? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13684.msg172811#msg172811
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2010, 11:06:12 am »
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I agree with Teffy and Will. Go for Towers first.
Euh ... What?
I never said:"Go for Towers first".
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Re: mono darkness deck. what should i upgrade? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13684.msg172822#msg172822
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2010, 11:49:42 am »
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I agree with Teffy and Will. Go for Towers first.
Euh ... What?
I never said:"Go for Towers first".
When you would play a deck with creature or weapon-based creature control (e.g. Otyugh, Parasite, Mindflayer), it is a real advantage to get your creature out 1 turn earlier with towers, especially, if you expect that the opponent has similar Creature Control.
Sorry, I misinterpreted you by assuming you meant that upgrading towers sped the deck up and thus meant towers were a good thing to upgrade first. My bad.  :(

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Re: mono darkness deck. what should i upgrade? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13684.msg172924#msg172924
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2010, 04:51:04 pm »
heh damn.. well i have one upped tower and eclipse now and yeah im probably gonna do vamps next instead :P

Re: mono darkness deck. what should i upgrade? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13684.msg173381#msg173381
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2010, 12:07:57 pm »
i have a deck that's quite similar to yours.

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it works quite well against T50 and against AI3 it gets EM nearly every time. first i have a question to you ... don't you have quanta problems by only using 7 pillars? sometimes i have, when i have a bad starting draw and don't get enough towers and devourers out. so maybe it would be a good choice to add some pillars first, then upgrade them. after that you should upgrade the vampires because this would speed up your deck. upgraded devourers (pests) aren't necessary until you go for T50 in my opinion. at least upgrade steals, drain lifes and the dragons ... that's what i'm going to do and i said before ... it works quite well for me so far! ;)

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Re: mono darkness deck. what should i upgrade? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13684.msg173683#msg173683
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2010, 10:48:22 pm »
don't you have quanta problems by only using 7 pillars? sometimes i have, when i have a bad starting draw and don't get enough towers and devourers out.
no i rarely have that problem actually. i happens but not often enough that i want to drop in some more pillars at the moment :)
nice deck btw and thanks for advice. im upping my vamps atm.

edit: though i expect to maybe need few more when i have more upped vampires since they cost bit more quanta, but ill see how this works out first :)

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Re: mono darkness deck. what should i upgrade? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13684.msg173724#msg173724
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2010, 12:11:26 am »
Personally I would recommend to upgrade them in the following order: Eclipse, Vampires, Pillars, Drain Life, Steal, Devourer, Vampire Stilettos, Black Dragons.

Although upgrading Pillars before Vampires has the advantage of speed, and extra quanta (which you will need to pay for the more expensive upgraded Vampires)

 

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