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unupped rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15238.msg194765#msg194765
« on: November 06, 2010, 05:58:15 am »
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hello all. first post, woo.
so i made this deck for this tourney. (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,15010.0.html)

it was inspired by Napalm Grenade's Born of Flame (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12170.0.html): , but i tried making it more rainbow like Antagon's PvP Graboid Rainbow (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,7528.0.html)

deck failed vs napalm in the 1st round (what are the chances...)

any tips/advice how i can improve this?

Re: unupped rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15238.msg194808#msg194808
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2010, 07:52:27 am »
Couple things with this deck:

What are you planning to Immolate? You only have two phoenixes in this deck, and the only other obvious card is Gnome Rider. Of course depending on the games, you can immolate anything, but I would remove the Gnome rider for a photon if it's only use is to be immolated, or change it to a chrysaora, as it will use up your death quanta and costs the same as the Gemfinder.

The steam machine is much more suited to a stall deck, personally I would replace that too. A deflag wouldn't go amiss, and the fire quanta had to come from somewhere with the steam machine so you shouldn't worry about imbalance.

I understand the tournament had no rares, but an Arsenic/Vamp dagger will definetely help. Discord is also quite evil, but if you put one in, I would remove a Lyncanthrope (same with Vamp Dagger now that I think about it)

Wings is a weird choice, but personally I like the card, and would be willing to take the risk with it. Your air will go a bit over if you do use both, so here its a choice on whether or not you like the 'chance' factor in wings.
If you are thinking of leaving in wings, try adding a spider. The combination won't happen much with quanta to use it, but for one extra quanta over the horned frog it seems worth it.

I think you did pretty well, for a improvised deck. Try to keep quanta usage as evenly balanced as possible (with the obvious exception of fire and earth).  You are missing all forms of death (some Darkness is used for Lycans), and it seems like quite a waste to me.
Good Luck in the next tourney (Unless it happens to be one I decide to join)

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Re: unupped rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15238.msg195239#msg195239
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2010, 08:01:59 pm »
well, i tried this deck again (after modifying it first) in the western tourney. taking the given advice into account and tinkering around with it myself i ended up with:
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i did manage to get to quarter finals before being eliminated 2-0.

works much better than last night, but it's still very prone to bad hands. once it gets into play properly, however, it works like magic.

to answer destroyer's question, immolate was used on anything targettable to get phoenix out and then used on phoenix. now, immolate will be used on frog/photons/chrysaora, anything past it's useful life, and phoenix once it's out.

wings is expensive to play and even more so to combo with web in this deck due to limited air quanta, but it did win me 1 match and stalled for 3 turns until my opponent drew a deflag. not quite sure how much i'm liking it, but i do realize it's potential.

Re: unupped rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15238.msg195252#msg195252
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2010, 08:29:25 pm »
So with the new deck, you have 2 obvious Immolations (Photons), and Horned frogs and Crysaora (when death is used up).
I can see bad hands because of the 3 different zero cost cards, however. In a deck like this, bad draws are going to happen. However, you can make the most of what you get.

I suggested spider as an alternative to Horned Frog, as they are the same bar cost, there was no death used. It's good to know that the strategy can work, however it's more of a little extra touch. In the long run, it may make the difference.
I notice you have only 5 novas now, and 4 Immolations. Does this seem to be working better? The lava Golem may have not worked otherwise, it was a good call considering your quanta sources.

Since the tournament is over, I would replace a Lycan/Blessing with a weapon. Arsenic will add poison damage, and is devastating early game, while Vamp Dagger will actually make a damage gap of 8 (attack them for 4 and heal you for 4). Those are also some of the less used elements, so the 1 quanta shouldn't be too hard to generate.

 

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