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Re: Starting Decks (A little game) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33153.msg418352#msg418352
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2011, 01:02:40 am »
So it's a good idea to make decks which can be made without playing a single game. I mean:
_ Create a new account (or reset one).
_ Choose a starting deck.
_ Sell some cards, buy some other cards.
_ Post good decks made that way: before playing a single game.

This way, people can start with a funny unupped AI3 grinder and start making the theck they want.
Thats what I said.

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Re: Starting Decks (A little game) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33153.msg418416#msg418416
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2011, 03:27:11 am »
The guy thought of a little game, and I felt that the comments on it were rather harsh and not explaining much, so I'll try.

Here is one of the starter decks. Just chose fire because it has been my favorite element for a long time :)
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4sa 4sa 4sa 4t3 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f1 5f1 5f1 5f1 5f2 5f3 5f3 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f5 5f6 5f6 5f8 5f8 5f9 5f9 5f9 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i6 5i7 5ia 8po

Now, taking out the most useless cards:
~Other cards: You have no use for quantum pillars, and a dagger isn't the most amazing weapon.
~Water cards: Having a duo set up like this simply slows down the deck, and cards similar to crawler and freeze can be found in fire cards.

Now, look at the deck:
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5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f1 5f1 5f1 5f1 5f2 5f3 5f3 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f5 5f6 5f6 5f8 5f8 5f9 5f9 5f9You have a
~Unnecessary amount of quarta production. Too many pillars to start off, and immolation is simply overdoing it.
~Only 1 really offensive card (dragon) and two cards that need to grow to have a decent amount of damage.
~Unnecessary amount of cc for AI3 grinding. CC does kill creatures to stop opponent offenses, but it doesn't mean that you will defeat the opponent.
Therefore, there is no way that you can make a good deck with just those cards.

On the other hand, there are plenty of good fire decks that you can get after maybe an hour or two of grinding with the beginner deck shown on the tutorial page (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1190.0.html) that you can choose from: lava rush, phoenix rush, stall, or even duo or trio options.

Finally, not sure if you are a beginner yourself, but if you are and need help yourself, do feel free to ask for good starting decks / options, etc.
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Re: Starting Decks (A little game) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33153.msg418442#msg418442
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2011, 06:02:14 am »
Without at least getting to buy cards by selling those you don't need, this is hardly any type of contest.

In general, drop every card that isn't your element.

Death and darkness can keep the dagger.(it gets a damage boost)
Light can keep 2 air towers and the firefly (I guess, air fuels pegasus dives, and firefly generates light)
Death can keep grav towers and otys (otys help death a lot) but drop skeletons
Time and aether can keep their secondary elements (they don't fit great, but don't majorly conflict.)
Time should drop unreliable fate eggs.
Earth should change mark to time to change graboids.

Thats about it. If doing that puts you under 30, toss back in the dagger and maybe the quantum pillars. But you cant do well with a deck not ment to do well.
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Re: Starting Decks (A little game) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33153.msg418536#msg418536
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2011, 01:29:20 pm »
You can't sell cards you don't need, just put them away. You can't buy new cards. That's the rule. You just put some cards away, and make the deck you think is better.

Edit: Ok, you can sell the cards, but please make the calculation posted, so everyone can see what you sold, and how much electrum (money) you got, and witch cards you bought...

Edit 2:

Finally, not sure if you are a beginner yourself, but if you are and need help yourself, do feel free to ask for good starting decks / options, etc.
No, I'm not a new player. I am playing for a few months now. I just liked the art of deck creation, and wanted to see what can be done with starting decks. How good they can be?

Edit 3:

Here is what I have done:

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5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5la 5lb 5lb 5lb 5lc 5ld 5le 5le 5lf 5lf 5lf 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5od 5oe 5oh 5ok 8pq


So, I chose the mark of Light, and created the deck of cards I had on the beginning. I didn't buy any cards, nor I sold any cards...

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Re: Starting Decks (A little game) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33153.msg418633#msg418633
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2011, 06:41:35 pm »
Edit: Ok, you can sell the cards, but please make the calculation posted, so everyone can see what you sold, and how much electrum (money) you got, and witch cards you bought...

So, I chose the mark of Light, and created the deck of cards I had on the beginning. I didn't buy any cards, nor I sold any cards...
That edit makes this competition much more interesting.
And yeah, I see what you did with that deck. you took out cards that didnt fit the deck, which is what I said was the basic idea anyways.
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Re: Starting Decks (A little game) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33153.msg419588#msg419588
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2011, 09:51:09 pm »
THANK U FOR THE EDIT!!! Now pick Death.
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Based off another deck but only two dragons. After you finish the easy quests, you should be able to buy a bone dragon. Add it, take out one bone pillar. Keep doing it till you have 4 bone dragons and 14 pillars. 
EDIT: After creating this deck, you should have 78 electrum left.

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Re: Starting Decks (A little game) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33153.msg419642#msg419642
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2011, 12:08:56 am »
I don't have enough time, can someone make an adrena vamps with the darknes starting deck?
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Re: Starting Decks (A little game) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33153.msg419650#msg419650
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2011, 12:22:16 am »
I don't have enough time, can someone make an adrena vamps with the darknes starting deck?
MAybe. If u say please!  :P

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Re: Starting Decks (A little game) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33153.msg419676#msg419676
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2011, 01:41:52 am »
I don't have enough time, can someone make an adrena vamps with the darknes starting deck?
MAybe. If u say please!  :P
Please, please  ;D
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Re: Starting Decks (A little game) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33153.msg419772#msg419772
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2011, 08:56:19 am »
I don't have enough time, can someone make an adrena vamps with the darknes starting deck?
Nice idea, I want to see that too...

Edit: Please... :3

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Re: Starting Decks (A little game) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33153.msg420161#msg420161
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2011, 01:12:07 am »
I don't have enough time, can someone make an adrena vamps with the darknes starting deck?
MAybe. If u say please!  :P
Please, please  ;D
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